Thank you so much for getting back to me so quickly! I deeply appreciate the warm welcome. Honestly, however, you have truly baffled me, because your own experience goes far beyond so-called cosmic consciousness. Up until now I thought the only two people that had reached what TM jargon calls UC was Robin C. and Ravi. And now it seems you reached at too! An interesting question as a follow-up might be this: if a person simply follows the 20 minutes-twice a day formulation, will they ever go beyond simple cosmic consciousness? I wonder if those of you who have reached GC and UC did so because of advanced meditation techniques, many hours of so-called 'rounding;' not to mention many more hours of meditation throughout the week. I think of Clint Eastwood who has been doing TM for four years. Seemingly he has done it in the simple 20 minute-twice a day fashion. Did you and Ravi (are you there?) engage in this more dedicated practice of TM? I must also say that your post has caused me some degree of disquiet. Meditation, at least for the purposes of my goal, is something that is done because it is helpful; not because it develops long-term brain changes of questionable utility!!!! Cheers Bill
From: RoryGoff <roryg...@hotmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson <ameradian2@...> wrote: > > Hello to everyone on Fairfield life. My name is Dr. William Parkinson and I > have been lurking here for over a month. I have only recently started > meditating ( 5months) and I am trying to learn as much about TM as I can; > both the good and the bad. Recently, MZ\RobinC and Ravi Yogi have made some > brief, but tantalizing allusions, to sleep (actually the lack thereof) and > various states of consciousness. Years ago I read the paper in the journal > Sleep documenting that people in established CC still maintain alpha wave > paterns even during delta sleep. I was wondering if anyone could shed further > light on this phenomenon. I understand that this is not the same as insomnia, > but I'm wondering exactly what happens and whether or not it interferes with > sleep. I am also wondering whether or not so-called cosmic consciousness > would recede back into the background if someone were to discontinue TM. I > ask this because in the eventuality that I, or someone else, may > be disconcerted by having this state of consciousness during sleep it would > be quite helpful to know that the discontinuation of TM would reverse this > phenomenon. I would be deeply appreciative of any information that anyone > might be willing to give me. Thank you in advance! > Cheers > Bill * * Dear Bill, welcome to Fairfield Life! Great questions; I'll take a shot at them. In my recollection, anyhow, witnessing sleep before Awakening was somewhat transitory. Since then however, it has generally felt as if a part of me is always asleep (if I had to locate this part, it would be in the back of my brain) and a part of me is always awake (this would be more in the brow area), so there really appears to be only one state of consciousness, or more accurately, one consciousness always and ever Here and Now which predominates through all its various states, so that the brain as a whole sings, regardless of where "I" happen to be localized in the brain's choir. Conscious mantra-meditation ceased immediately upon Awakening, as it was self-evident that "I" was not, and That Alone IS, and there was no longer anywhere to go, and that was 29 years ago. I have no regrets and no desire to change, but then this is certainly not Cosmic Consciousness as classically described, or not C.C. alone; it is indescribable, more like everything and nothing, more like utter ignorance with utter contentment :-)
