Yo Lawson I wouldn't take MMY's words seriously. You may have some beliefs regarding what UC and full liberation is and I don't agree with it. TM is clearly a path of yoga with milestones, description and categories of enlightenment. The fact that I haven't heard one TM'er experience match all these shows that perhaps there's another reason why MMY would have gone to so much trouble to state all these. IMO he might have prescribed these understanding the Rajasic, goal oriented nature of the human mind. Other than a Jim here or a Rory there the literal interpretation of this has resulted in widespread prevalence of what I call pimps(intellectuals) among TM'ers totally fascinated with the whore (intellect). I don't think self-knowledge has anything to do with Siddhis, sure there seem to be varying degrees of self-knowledge based upon the external manifestation of it. According to their predominant samkaras - some become Gurus, some debate with others, a lot just continue in their respective professions, some just fall out of the society and wander enjoying their bliss. In either case I think I agree that full liberation would not be possible until you drop the physical body.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@...> wrote: > > Yo, William, don't take them too seriously. According to MMY, if you can't perform any and all of the sidhis (e.g. Yogic Flying) then you're not truly in Unity Consciousness. > > Now, for those who like to play semantic games with the above, I'll take it back a step: if, immediately prior to Full Liberation, you don't find yourself able to perform all the Sidhis to perfection during sutra practice during your participation in the TM/TM-SIdhis program, then you are probably not fully enlightened, no matter what your perceptions suggest. > > MMY himself once hinted that that was one of the reasons why he realized the world wasn't quite how it should be when he was off on his own, meditating after his guru dev died: he wasn't doing/experiencing some of the stuff that was predicted for someone in his apparent state of consciousness and finally concluded that the current state of the world's consciousness wouldn't support full enlightenment, and eventually set out to remedy the situation. > > L. >
