Sorry, but I can document everything I've said about Vaj; he can't document or even cite a single example of a lie from me, nor can anyone else here. I simply don't lie; I have no need to.
Anyone who knows the players here can see the intentional deception in Vaj's comment at the end of his current post about initiators being brainwashed; three of the TM teachers who doubt Vaj's claimed TM status are disaffected in one respect or another and haven't been part of the movement in some years. They're all on record in the archives of this forum as suspecting Vaj has not told the truth about his experience with TM, not because he's a TM critic but because he's said a number of things about the technique and how it's taught that are grossly factually inaccurate and easily revealed as such by reference to the TM checking notes. Again, all this is very well documented. With regard to "Poor Barry and Curtis," yes, Curtis is relatively innocent compared to Vaj. But "Poor Barry" isn't; he's worse. I could document from the archives literally *hundreds* of falsehoods from him. The Web site Vaj mentions, as he well knows, is not mine. It's a site put up by Andrew Skolnick, author of the infamous JAMA article on TM, in revenge for having been repeatedly outed as a liar on the Usenet newsgroup alt.m.t by me and several other TMers. As for "many of Mahesh's closest inside men" agreeing with Vaj, that's a truly pathetic claim just on its face. Mark, it's a pity we have a few deeply malicious people on this forum. Most of us have been enjoying your reminiscences and reflections. I hope you don't let the conflicts between the former and the latter groups drive you away. There's no need for you to get involved in them. --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Mark Landau wrote: > > > Thank you, Judy. There are quite a lot of things that get communicated > > here that hold no meaning for me whatsoever. I think my participation here > > has peaked. I'll need to start investing more of my time on survival... > > > Please keep in mind Mark, Judy has a long-standing reputation as a chronic > liar (all the while obsessing about others words, and how she might edit > them). She's still constantly - and obsessively - barking about Poor Barry > and Curtis, despite their relative innocence. > > Please refer to her (now outdated) website, The Junkyard Dog. > > So sad. > > Many of Mahesh's closest inside men agree with me. Quite sad, but quite true. > > Initiators were - and many still are - the most thoroughly brainwashed of > Mahesh's followers. They'll defend their vedic anthill till the end. This is > true, even in the most objective. >
