Note Curtis's inability to respond with reasoned argument
to my post, and his use of ad hominem as a substitute--
exactly what he had just got done falsely accusing *me*
of doing.

More later.

--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
>
> Only you would even be able to dig up posts I have dropped for lack of 
> interest in pursuing it beyond making our points and realizing it was going 
> nowhere.
> 
> Judy:
> 
> snip
> > If you were honest, you'd acknowledge that in most of our
> > hostile exchanges, you're the one to back out, not me. The
> > most recent example was our exchange immediately previous
> > to this one, where you failed to respond to this post:
> 
> snip
> <What's your excuse for letting yourself off the hook of
> responding?>
> 
> 
> Because you wear me down Judy as you have here.  We both make our points, 
> disagree and then you continue to post as if answering your hostile 
> assertions is endlessly entertaining.
> 
> It is not. It is boring.  And as I mentioned before, you are pissing away 
> opportunities for discussion on your endless rancorous mission to make me 
> look bad.
> 
> It is boring.  No, you have become boring.  I am not interested in your 
> making a case that I am something different from your own Mr. Wonderful 
> fantasy.  It is a false impression you have created and endlessly try to make 
> me buy into, as if this could even be possible. Both version of me are your 
> own fantasy. 
> 
> This mission consumes you with an intensity that I find distasteful.  You are 
> an ill-wisher, a malevolent person toward me. You do not wish me well, you 
> wish me ill.  Your agenda is unfriendly.  You are the sourest of...Goddam I 
> wish I had not taken that off the table so quickly, now I am going to have to 
> come up with something else...you are not nice Judy.  A sand thrower in the 
> sandbox of FFL. And because all the neighborhood cats use the park's sandbox 
> for their litter, your thrown sand stinks.  And the sand is boring...oh hell 
> now I've gone too far and lost it again.  OK here goes:
> 
> I rebuke thee, I rebuke the, I rebuke thee.  Get thee behind me.
> 
> (I've heard that works.) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > > >
> > <snip>
> > > > Gonna give you just one example from your previous post
> > > > (don't have time now to fisk the whole collection of
> > > > misreadings):
> > > 
> > > But of course.  The reader is left to assume that you have
> > > lots of them.   Terms like a "boatload" would be helpful 
> > n enhancing the impression of your misleading assertion.
> > 
> > "Boatload" is good, especially when we add the new ones
> > in the post I'm responding to. I still don't have time,
> > though. I'm working on a deadline, and I'm behind.
> > 
> > What will you say, I wonder, when I'm able to get around
> > to it and make good on my claim?
> > 
> > In the meantime, I'll nail one assertion in this post that
> > isn't just a misreading but a deliberate falsehood:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > > Since I do not transform into a hideous creature when
> > > confronted with your hostile accusations but respond with
> > > my POV which differs from yours,
> > 
> > You do become a "hideous creature," though, in
> > comparison with your Mr. Wonderful presentation. That
> > was the whole point of the Hulk and Jekyll/Hyde analogy.
> > But I suspect you knew that.
> > 
> >  I will assume that this 
> > > mischaractorization is one a  long history of ad hominem 
> > > characterizations meant to distract from your inability
> > > to answer my responses with reasoned argument.  And
> > > because you claim that I become a murderous monster, you
> > > believe you are conveniently let off the hook of responding.
> > > Does that really work for you, because from this end it
> > > seems pretty transparently lame.
> > 
> > If you were honest, you'd acknowledge that in most of our
> > hostile exchanges, you're the one to back out, not me. The
> > most recent example was our exchange immediately previous
> > to this one, where you failed to respond to this post:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282863
> > 
> > What's your excuse for letting yourself off the hook of
> > responding?
> > 
> > I rarely do ad hominem without having *first* responded
> > with reasoned argument. I don't use the former as a
> > substitute for the latter. I know you're aware of that,
> > so why are you pretending otherwise?
> > 
> > > > "The thing is, when you get pissed, you lose all sense
> > > > of proportion and fairness, and you too often become
> > > > actively dishonest, hauling out one straw man after
> > > > another, as you just did above. You pull out your
> > > > sophist debating tricks and make it impossible to
> > > > discuss misunderstandings and grievances on either
> > > > side."
> > > 
> > > Yeah sounds to me as if when I confront your BS with
> > > reasoned argument you can't respond effectively so you
> > > pull the old ad hominem out of your very tiny bag of
> > > tricks
> > 
> > The post quoted above was an example of the falsity of
> > your assertion. The "ad hominem" came at the end, after
> > I'd thoroughly fisked your previous post. It was you who
> > couldn't respond with reasoned argument.
> > 
> > > and hope I wont notice.  Newsflash, I do.
> > 
> > Hmm, I expected you to claim you'd somehow managed to
> > miss the post. You've just neatly disposed of that
> > potential excuse for not responding to it.
> >
>


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