-- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote:
>
> Note Curtis's inability to respond with reasoned argument
> to my post, and his use of ad hominem as a substitute--
> exactly what he had just got done falsely accusing *me*
> of doing.
> 

How would Mr. Wonderful respond...I know, guilty as charged Judy.  You got me 
there, that is exactly what I was doing.  


> More later.


You may have to go this thread alone from here on Judy because I am running out 
of ways to amuse myself.  Chalk it up as another win in your "I'm gunna wear 
you down" strategy."  



> 
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Only you would even be able to dig up posts I have dropped for lack of 
> > interest in pursuing it beyond making our points and realizing it was going 
> > nowhere.
> > 
> > Judy:
> > 
> > snip
> > > If you were honest, you'd acknowledge that in most of our
> > > hostile exchanges, you're the one to back out, not me. The
> > > most recent example was our exchange immediately previous
> > > to this one, where you failed to respond to this post:
> > 
> > snip
> > <What's your excuse for letting yourself off the hook of
> > responding?>
> > 
> > 
> > Because you wear me down Judy as you have here.  We both make our points, 
> > disagree and then you continue to post as if answering your hostile 
> > assertions is endlessly entertaining.
> > 
> > It is not. It is boring.  And as I mentioned before, you are pissing away 
> > opportunities for discussion on your endless rancorous mission to make me 
> > look bad.
> > 
> > It is boring.  No, you have become boring.  I am not interested in your 
> > making a case that I am something different from your own Mr. Wonderful 
> > fantasy.  It is a false impression you have created and endlessly try to 
> > make me buy into, as if this could even be possible. Both version of me are 
> > your own fantasy. 
> > 
> > This mission consumes you with an intensity that I find distasteful.  You 
> > are an ill-wisher, a malevolent person toward me. You do not wish me well, 
> > you wish me ill.  Your agenda is unfriendly.  You are the sourest 
> > of...Goddam I wish I had not taken that off the table so quickly, now I am 
> > going to have to come up with something else...you are not nice Judy.  A 
> > sand thrower in the sandbox of FFL. And because all the neighborhood cats 
> > use the park's sandbox for their litter, your thrown sand stinks.  And the 
> > sand is boring...oh hell now I've gone too far and lost it again.  OK here 
> > goes:
> > 
> > I rebuke thee, I rebuke the, I rebuke thee.  Get thee behind me.
> > 
> > (I've heard that works.) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > <snip>
> > > > > Gonna give you just one example from your previous post
> > > > > (don't have time now to fisk the whole collection of
> > > > > misreadings):
> > > > 
> > > > But of course.  The reader is left to assume that you have
> > > > lots of them.   Terms like a "boatload" would be helpful 
> > > n enhancing the impression of your misleading assertion.
> > > 
> > > "Boatload" is good, especially when we add the new ones
> > > in the post I'm responding to. I still don't have time,
> > > though. I'm working on a deadline, and I'm behind.
> > > 
> > > What will you say, I wonder, when I'm able to get around
> > > to it and make good on my claim?
> > > 
> > > In the meantime, I'll nail one assertion in this post that
> > > isn't just a misreading but a deliberate falsehood:
> > > 
> > > <snip>
> > > > Since I do not transform into a hideous creature when
> > > > confronted with your hostile accusations but respond with
> > > > my POV which differs from yours,
> > > 
> > > You do become a "hideous creature," though, in
> > > comparison with your Mr. Wonderful presentation. That
> > > was the whole point of the Hulk and Jekyll/Hyde analogy.
> > > But I suspect you knew that.
> > > 
> > >  I will assume that this 
> > > > mischaractorization is one a  long history of ad hominem 
> > > > characterizations meant to distract from your inability
> > > > to answer my responses with reasoned argument.  And
> > > > because you claim that I become a murderous monster, you
> > > > believe you are conveniently let off the hook of responding.
> > > > Does that really work for you, because from this end it
> > > > seems pretty transparently lame.
> > > 
> > > If you were honest, you'd acknowledge that in most of our
> > > hostile exchanges, you're the one to back out, not me. The
> > > most recent example was our exchange immediately previous
> > > to this one, where you failed to respond to this post:
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282863
> > > 
> > > What's your excuse for letting yourself off the hook of
> > > responding?
> > > 
> > > I rarely do ad hominem without having *first* responded
> > > with reasoned argument. I don't use the former as a
> > > substitute for the latter. I know you're aware of that,
> > > so why are you pretending otherwise?
> > > 
> > > > > "The thing is, when you get pissed, you lose all sense
> > > > > of proportion and fairness, and you too often become
> > > > > actively dishonest, hauling out one straw man after
> > > > > another, as you just did above. You pull out your
> > > > > sophist debating tricks and make it impossible to
> > > > > discuss misunderstandings and grievances on either
> > > > > side."
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah sounds to me as if when I confront your BS with
> > > > reasoned argument you can't respond effectively so you
> > > > pull the old ad hominem out of your very tiny bag of
> > > > tricks
> > > 
> > > The post quoted above was an example of the falsity of
> > > your assertion. The "ad hominem" came at the end, after
> > > I'd thoroughly fisked your previous post. It was you who
> > > couldn't respond with reasoned argument.
> > > 
> > > > and hope I wont notice.  Newsflash, I do.
> > > 
> > > Hmm, I expected you to claim you'd somehow managed to
> > > miss the post. You've just neatly disposed of that
> > > potential excuse for not responding to it.
> > >
> >
>


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