--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@...> wrote:
I was thinking about the > goings on on FFL. And am I crazy or what, but I was thinking, that as > long as Ravi can follow the few rules we have here, maybe he can learn > to converse in a more civil and balanced way. Maybe learn something > about himself, and we can learn something from him. Some of us (I am a > minor figure in this regard) will bear the brunt of his abuse, but maybe > it might be worth the price is we can bring him closer to this end. > > Am I crazy or what. No, you aren't crazy, you are expressing a normal level of compassion for your fellow man and I dig it. Unfortunately this is not a level playing field in this regard, so the hope for reciprocity may be ill founded. But I dig your default position and I shared it last time around. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. My re-frame is that this is the price for freedom and I am willing to pay it. But I don't intend for it to spin out of control again with me asleep at the wheel waiting for normalcy to reign. I don't see the added value, but others do, so as long as he can stay within some pretty liberal rules of propriety, him being here is none of my business. But the old dog has to keep himself entertained while he sleeps with one eye opened doesn't he? I appreciate that you are getting all this and again, you are a decent well-wisher. Always have been as long as I've known you here. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ > wrote: > > > > > > This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. > > > > > > > That was my mistake last time Steve. I believed that. > > > > I appreciate your balancing comments and genuine affection for the guy > though. I've got a harder climb on that score. My sights are just > focused on containment of damage this time around. > > > Your comment here Curtis to Ravi from a previous post, this puts things > into the right perspective. > > The qualities you relentlessly ascribe to your self are the > things other people would be ascribing to you if they were real. Until > they do, > why don't you just get off the schtick and join the rest of us on planet > "no big > deal". > > And okay, I wasn't going to say this, but I guess I will. Driving back > from Chicago, (I am glad my wife takes on most of the driving), and in > between napping and eating sour lifesavers, I was thinking about the > goings on on FFL. And am I crazy or what, but I was thinking, that as > long as Ravi can follow the few rules we have here, maybe he can learn > to converse in a more civil and balanced way. Maybe learn something > about himself, and we can learn something from him. Some of us (I am a > minor figure in this regard) will bear the brunt of his abuse, but maybe > it might be worth the price is we can bring him closer to this end. > > Am I crazy or what. Do you see how easily I was swept into the idealism > of MMY's World Plan. Jesus, I was all in. > > And yes, I do recognize that I am sounding like the British school marm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hard to really see the purpose in telling strangers on the > internet to > > > Fuck off and Die. That is kind of dark, even for me. > > > > > > > > But it does remind me that you are an ill-wisher and although the > > > depth of your malice caught me off guard last time, I am much better > > > prepared for you now. > > > > > > > > I have to disagree with your grandiose claim to some imaginary > "bigger > > > fish to fry". In this discussion you were able to make a nasty > insult to > > > a stranger on a forum for people in a group you have no connection > with. > > > Making unpleasant statements like that IS your purpose for being > here. > > > It is pretty much all you have contributed here since you got back. > > > > > > > > Self-aggrandizing personal attacks on people you don't know, > loaded > > > with the personal charge of your own life's disappointments. There > > > really should be a name for this Internet forum phenomenon, perhaps > > > using figurative language that implies that one lives under a bridge > in > > > darkness, only to pop out with an incoherent attack when someone > comes > > > across.... > > > > > > > > I'll give it some thought I'm sure I can come up with something. > > > > > > > > > This is not a fair fight Curtis. Cut him some slack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > chivukula.ravi@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Curtis, > > > > > > > > > > You are a sick, sly, SOB - proving you don't even have any > semblance > > > of > > > > > self-dignity, a masochist..LOL..as Judy once said beautifully > > > put..FOAD, I > > > > > have bigger fish to fry. > > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > Ravi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, curtisdeltablues > curtisdeltablues@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > > > <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not the fact that he is just dead. > > > > > > > > > > > > Did Nabbie just change his handle here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You yourself have no honesty and integrity to question him - > > > that man is > > > > > > at> least dead, you are alive.> > > > > > > > > > > > > So you were hoping to argue with me about my opinions about a > man > > > you > > > > > > didn't know did ya? And you were thinking it might be > > > inappropriate for me > > > > > > to voice opinions about him on a board devoted to those > issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > Got it, I'm sure that all makes perfect sense in crazy world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wake up and take care of yourself, rather than your > > > fixation on him. > > > > > > > What moral, ethical, spiritual principles you have - you can > > > continue > > > > > > your > > > > > > > fixations, fantasies on Maharishi but don't expect you not > being > > > called > > > > > > on > > > > > > > it every time you do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, well this is a TM and ex TM focused forum so you are > gunna > > > get some > > > > > > talk about the guy I would think. And I wasn't challenged on > > > anything I > > > > > > said, it was just a general insult post like yours. I would > > > welcome someone > > > > > > to challenge the meaning of what I wrote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prove us you are not Maitreya of Morons here, you are > > > rehabilitating, > > > > > > good > > > > > > > we all applaud it. The Morons who parade their emotionally > > > demented, > > > > > > > deranged, depraved misogynist, homophobic nonsense here day > in > > > and day > > > > > > out, > > > > > > > abusing and taunting others from posting here, their 17 year > old > > > > > > paranoid, > > > > > > > delusional, narcissistic fantasies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, the judge got that one right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You yourself had the the temerity to > > > > > > > brand Judy as being full of malice, of trying to slander > you, > > > man the > > > > > > gall, > > > > > > > arrogance and the stupidity. > > > > > > > > > > > > I get it that this site is a soap opera vehicle for your own > > > personal > > > > > > frustrations, but Judy has nothing to do with this exchange. > If > > > you are > > > > > > trying to insert yourself into long forgotten exchanges I had > with > > > her in > > > > > > the past you are being trollish, trying to get two other > people to > > > fight > > > > > > who have no current beef with each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I see that with no TM background all you have to do here > is > > > shoot > > > > > > spitballs and hope they will get you noticed, but you aren't > gunna > > > get much > > > > > > traction on the train of "don't talk about Maharishi here". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel pity for your ass.> > > > > > > > > > > > > No you don't. You feel resentment for your own personal life > and > > > you are > > > > > > trying to take that aggression out on strangers here, > inserting > > > yourself > > > > > > into conversations between people with actual skin in the > game. I > > > may > > > > > > disagree with Nabbie but he knew Maharishi and has earned his > > > opinion about > > > > > > him as I have. You are just a troll looking for a fight about > > > topics you > > > > > > know nothing about while hoping that by interjecting yourself > into > > > the > > > > > > personalities of the posters here you wont stick out so much. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are a tumbleweed of unfocused unpleasantness blowing > through > > > this > > > > > > group till you completely lose it and get booted off. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM, curtisdeltablues < > > > > > > > curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was > just > > > > > > guessing. > > > > > > > > What course was that on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his > deadness. I > > > thought > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between > > > Marley's > > > > > > ghost and > > > > > > > > the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew > to > > > try some > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who > > > still > > > > > > practice it > > > > > > > > exclusively now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies? And how > do > > > you > > > > > > imagine my > > > > > > > > "bashing" affects him? Is it like a disturbance in sleep > like > > > when > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over? > Or > > > does it > > > > > > > > really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his > teeth > > > and pound > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque "CURTIS!" Does he > shake > > > his > > > > > > fist at > > > > > > > > the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the > grave? > > > Does he > > > > > > try to > > > > > > > > extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in > some > > > way like > > > > > > > > moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a > > > mid-sleep groggy > > > > > > > > bathroom run? Exactly how pissed do my words make this > spirit > > > of > > > > > > Maharishi > > > > > > > > you imagine? Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to > avoid > > > his evil > > > > > > eye? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now of course if your point was that when I posted the > same > > > perspective > > > > > > > > when he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said > > > directly, I > > > > > > > > would agree. I think we are both glad that he took so many > > > > > > opportunities to > > > > > > > > give his side here while he was living, and I do miss > those > > > exchanges. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead > > > extend > > > > > > Nabbie. Do > > > > > > > > we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon? What is > the > > > key > > > > > > aspect of > > > > > > > > the unfairness you seem to resent about it all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he > might > > > as well > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > dead like King Tony? Do I have to include him in the don't > > > speak about > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > dead ban. Should we just ban all histories of famous dead > > > people if the > > > > > > > > perspective isn't only positive? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, > misguided > > > though I > > > > > > > > believe it to be, to protect the magical illusions he > tried to > > > sell us > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > about himself during his life? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh shit I have a fleck of dust in my eye...hey wait a > > > minute...wasn't > > > > > > he a > > > > > > > > pile of dust the last time we saw him... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > Who would > > > > > > > > wish that on anybody? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the > > > > > > hillbilly-singer > > > > > > > > was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling > > > most > > > > > > > > comfortable: Maharishi-bashing. > > > > > > > > > If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to > > > bash, > > > > > > > > particularily someone who's dead, don't you think ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
