--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
<lurkernomore20002000@...> wrote:
>
>
> Share,
>
> Always consider the source.  As Ravi has said, much of his
> dysfunctionality is a matter of the public record, except for those
> posts (a considerable amount) he has managed to have expunged.
>
> He is on the record here, saying that he issued an ultimatum to his
wife
> that she renounce Amma as her guru and instead accept him as her guru.
>
> So, as I've said, consider the source.


>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
> chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
> >
> > Share - I have to add, your posts to this thread have hilarious in
> their
> > utter clueless-ness.
> >
> > You are not a person who has, so far shown any awareness,
sensitivity,
> > maturity - intellectual and/or emotional, intelligence to understand
> the
> > nuances of any issue to be really compassionate. There is a
difference
> > between fake niceness and genuine compassion - in the absence of
above
> your
> > responses to Robin's posts come across as hilarious or malicious
> depending
> > on my mood.
> >
> > I would say you are very much like Barry except he is overtly mean
and
> you
> > are not. Anyway I don't know what the sound of two paranoid,
> delusional
> > people conversing is - I don't think it's possible, they are
too..well
> > paranoid and alike to get along with each other. So you are better
off
> > spending your time on FFL chatting to people like LG, Xeno and
others
> if
> > you don't want people to pile on you.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Judy, whatever the quality of Robin's intentions, they
> > > > would have been under the influence of his self proclaimed
> > > > state of mystical hallucination. Your ignoring, in relation
> > > > to his intentions, that self proclamation of his
> > >
> > > Of course, I don't "ignore" it. You say that without having
> > > any idea of how I view this: You just made it up. Typical.
> > >
> > > I *disagree* that Robin's intentions would have been affected,
> > > made somehow negative, by his enlightenment. I see no reason
> > > why that would have been the case.
> > >
> > > You are taking "delusion" and "hallucination" too literally;
> > > those terms are only very roughly approximate, because there
> > > simply is no vocabulary to describe what happened to him.
> > >
> > > He himself has said his enlightenment was *real*, so there's
> > > obviously a paradoxical element to this that you haven't
> > > bothered to take into account.
> > >
> > >
> > > > perpetuates
> > > > an aspect of hallucination into the PRESENT and is not IMO
> > > > helpful in the present. This is what I am addressing, the
> > > > present.
> > >
> > > Yes, I know you are. Your sole interest is in finding ways
> > > to portray him negatively *in the present*, and you'll make
> > > up whatever metaphysical "rules" you need to in order to do
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Your "perpetuate an aspect of hallucination into the
> > > PRESENT" doesn't make any sense. *You* don't even know what
> > > you mean by it.
> > >
> > > You have a desperate need to make Robin a Bad Guy to justify
> > > the disgusting way you've behaved toward him.
> > >
> > > I stand by what I said. The negative intelligences that
> > > brought about Robin's enlightenment *used* his good
> > > intentions--and those of everyone in his group--to further
> > > their own goals. That did not turn them into *bad*
> > > intentions. The bad intentions were those of the negative
> > > intelligences that took advantage of his innocence, his
> > > idealism, his loving nature, his desire to help others
> > > be the best they could possibly be.
> > >
> > >
> > > Though I recognize that I've made some mistakes
> > > > about all this and will probably do so again, I will
> > > > continue to address issues if I think it is helpful to do
> > > > so.
> > >
> > > Robin is a good and honorable man who treated you with
> > > fairness, respect, and compassion even after you turned
> > > on him.
> > >
> > > You can do nothing "helpful" where Robin is concerned other
> > > than wake up, smell the coffee, and acknowledge how
> > > appallingly badly and dishonestly you've treated him due
> > > to your inability to face your own weaknesses. If you are
> > > incapable of dealing with that reality, just keep your
> > > poisonous trap shut about him.
> > >
> > > You are the most toxic personality I have ever encountered.
> > > You make my skin crawl.
> > >
> > > And I notice you slithered away from responding to my
> > > question:
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Yes, the whole situation became confusing, agonizing and
> > > > > eventually poignant. Even more reason to immediately name
> > > > > the hallucination or delusion or pragyaparadh when it
> > > > > appears so that unnecessary suffering can be avoided.
> > > >
> > > > And what is it that will do this "naming" for us, Share?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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