Share, did you plan to get back to me on this?  Or, are we leaving it and 
moving on?  I would like to know why you think I have sunk to a *NEW* low.  

Did you reply to this on the other thread, where you pasted what I had said to 
you after your Juliette response?  If so, never mind.  I already replied to 
that. That discussion is moving forward, no?  Or not.  


________________________________
 From: emilymae.reyn <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking
 

  
<snip> BTW, I said it was a NEW low for Emily and Raunchy.  Not so new for 
Ravi, right?

Dear Share, I missed this earlier.  I stopped in for lunch, but let us agree to 
start right here, with this statement.  Us, as in you and me.  I have let our 
entire history go; I apologize for hurting your feelings and I will think 
fondly of you when I meditate next. 

Now, deep breath....ahhhhhh.  O.K.  It's a lovely day here, so I must get back 
to the ocean, because that is where God resides and I'm only here for another 
day.  I will be back later and hope to hear from you.

Please, I really want to work this out with you.  I really do.  What 
specifically is a NEW low for me?  Specifically.  Please quote anything I've 
written in support of this allegation and explain what it is and why you think 
it is.  I will cop to it all and explain the context and reason why I wrote it, 
if true.  But, I *really* need you to explain what it is.  I'm seriously 
confused and don't understand all of what I am interpreting as purely negative 
attack rhetoric coming out of you.  I could be wrong; I have been wrong before. 
 Let us just figure this one thing out in present time.  Sincerely, Emily. 

--- In [email protected], Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote:
>
> No Share, that's *not* what I say or have said.  I have said that you 
> "avoid" - I have nothing but multiple concrete examples of this I could show 
> you, if I cared enough to spend the time to do so, and I don't.  
> 
> Good barb on me "running to the coast" and "walking my dog."  Way to avoid 
> life - it's one of my specialties, didn't you know?  I  have many more 
> tricks up my sleeve I could tell you that you might benefit from more than 
> whoever the next healer is on the circuit through Fairfield catering to those 
> addicted to the "health and wellness" industry.  You bet your sweet little 
> backjack, that's what I'm doing, and I'll be doing that the rest of the day 
> and loving every balmy second of it.  
> 
> You *are* ranting.  Yeah!  Be angry Share, be very, very angry.  How dare 
> these people say these horrific things about Mr. Newton? And, it isn't just 
> those you have cultized, it was other people too.  Does that mean they are 
> now candidates for the cult you've created to assign people to who disagree 
> with you?  
> 
> From: Share Long <sharelong60@...>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking
> 
> 
>   
> Jesus, Robin!  Can't you answer a question either?!  Ok.  What scares you 
> a little about John Newton?  Or scared past tense just in case it's already 
> gone.  And btw if you really want to be scared, check out his teacher, the 
> originator of the forgiveness prayers, kahuna Howard Wills.
> 
> Over and out, I'm off to writing group.  You know, how Emily says I post and 
> then go somewhere else.  I guess it's ok that she runs to the coast, walks 
> her dog etc.
> 
> Great!  Now I'm ranting.  Yeah, yeah, much love to you too.  And what the 
> heck, to the whole screwy gang!  
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Robin Carlsen <maskedzebra@...>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:03 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> >
> > Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak!  Too late!  I already replied to RD.  But what 
> > the heck stung her about John Newton for God's sake?!  Has she even met 
> > the man?!  No, I think it's what I say at the end of my reply to 
> > her.  She made John Newton wrong to make me wrong.  And we all know 
> > why the women want to make me wrong.  So you and them can continue to be 
> > right right RIGHT.  Pathetic!  What are they so insecure about?   
> > 
> > 
> > And why the heck does he scare you, Robin?  Or are you being ironic? 
> >   
> 
> I SAID: "just a LITTLE, Share. And that fear may go soon anyways. Please 
> don't misquote me: to say "John scares me" is quite different from saying: 
> John scares me JUST A LITTLE. 
> 
> > BTW, I said it was a NEW low for Emily and Raunchy.  Not so new for 
> > Ravi, right?
> 
> As far as I am concerned, Ravi is just full of hate--especially for strong 
> and loving women. If he likes you (and you are a woman), that means you're 
> weak and pathetic. Dr Salyavin has provided us with a nifty diagnostic 
> summation anyhow. I agree with him.
> 
> Jesus. I hope I am not losing it again. Much love and over and out.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Robin Carlsen <maskedzebra@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 12:41 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to Emily about extremely polarized thinking
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Emily I think the main cult characteristics are thinking the cult and 
> > > > its leader are almost all positive.  AND what I've come to think is 
> > > > an even more telling indicator of cultishness,  thinking that those 
> > > > who don't agree with the cult and its leader are almost all 
> > > > negative.  So when the writing of a FFL person expresses such 
> > > > extremely polarized thinking, then I think that person is fundamentally 
> > > > aligned with the group I've been calling wts.  
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > A telling indicator of cluelessness is when a whole lot of people agree 
> > > with each other about your behavior, you think there's something wrong 
> > > with them and not yourself. Then, rather than consider it a gift from the 
> > > universe that an entire group of people have given you exactly the same 
> > > feedback, you dismiss them as a "cult" (an utterly laughable 
> > > rationalization) and then run off to "healers" to validate your 
> > > cluelessness. Healing in right in front of your face. Refusing to see it 
> > > is what needs healing. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > For example, Judy has labeled me the most toxic person AND labeled 
> > > > Robin's WTS intentions the absolute highest and purest.  I think 
> > > > these phrases indicate extremely polarized thinking as expressed by the 
> > > > use of verbal superlatives.  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The problem with such extremely polarized thinking IMO is that it 
> > > > totally misses an essential truth about us human beings, which is that 
> > > > we are all a mix of positive and negative and that most of us are 
> > > > mostly positive with a a glitch or two thrown in to keep us embodied 
> > > > and growing.  And some of us have more and or bigger glitches.
> > > > 
> > > > Another essential truth is that we humans are going to make mistakes 
> > > > whether our glitches are big or little, few or many.  In regards to 
> > > > this I have also noticed that a big feature of extremely polarized
> > > >  thinking is that it does not allow for making mistakes, learning from 
> > > > them and forgiveness.  This too I think is very harmful.
> > > > 
> > > > As far as I'm
> > > >  concerned it's up to you to decide if you're a member of wts.  I'm 
> > > > only weighing in on this because you and others are STILL bringing it 
> > > > up!  BTW this is another indicator of cultishness IMO because it too 
> > > > has an element of being extreme in its expression.  Also BTW I keep 
> > > > saying IMO to indicate that I realize what I'm saying is only my 
> > > > opinion based on my observations.  Nothing more.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Of all the wts people I think you're pretty fluid in your thinking.  
> > > > But you still are sometimes extreme in the negative direction towards 
> > > > me and towards other non wts people like Barry.  Often I think your 
> > > > negativity is expressed cleverly and pseudo playfully.  Nonetheless 
> > > > the extreme negativity underneath is discernible.  And as I say 
> > > > above, this extremely polarized thinking in the negative direction has 
> > > > become for me the clearest indication of someone's being in the group I 
> > > > call wts. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > PS  A very recent example of your extremely negative thinking about 
> > > > me:  I made no judgement about Raunchy's grand daughter.  I was 
> > > > expressing an opinion about the BENEFICIAL effect I thought John 
> > > > Newton's work would have on Raunchy and the people in her life.  IMO 
> > > > both you and Raunchy reached a new low with those posts.  
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Who me, new lows? What about Gopi Boy? "Ravi called Newton "fucking 
> > > delusional," but he didn't get a gauntlet (or even a guantlet) thrown at 
> > > him either." 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328870
> > > 
> > > BTW if John Newton, himself hadn't thought the "fainting goat" riff was 
> > > humorous, I'd wonder even more than I do about his bona fides.
> > 
> > Don't bite, Share. She's just trying to get back at you. You stung her. I 
> > kinda like that. With Emily, I'd say just FO. You're good, Share. John 
> > scares me just a little. And that's fine too.
> > >
> >
>


 

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