--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > FYI, the women I talked to at the strip club in Detroit
> > *were* my friends.  ...  I was interested in *them*.  
> ... 
> > I was sorta like their pet, their artist-
> > in-residence, like Toulouse-Lautrec was in Paris or
> > Hokusai was in Kyoto. ...
> > 
> > And I liked the company.  The women related to me 
> > because I treated them like women, not strippers.  We
> > laughed togther and had fun and talked like any two
> > other human beings would laugh and talk.
> 
> This captures a lot of what real world modern strip clubs are 
> about. Its so funny to hear abstractions about how bad clubs 
> are -- that are based on imagination of what clubsare, or dramatic
> (mis)representations, and/or 25 year old journal articles. 

Or, as was actually done here, from TV and movies.
That's the closest that a lot of people have ever
gotten to one of these clubs.

Some of them *are* sleazy, and exploitative.  Some
insurance companies and defense manufacturers and
retailers are sleazy and exploitative.  But I think
the real issue is that most Americans look down on
strippers and other sex workers.  They're just trying
to hide their own prejudice behind the claim of
"exploitation" and pretending to be outraged about it.

> I am not a big fan of strip clubs. I have lots of better ways 
> to spend my time, usually. I did not go to one until I was 45. 

I haven't been to one since that period I spent in
Detroit.  I'll admit it...I was taking advantage of
*them*.  Their free limo service saved me, and thus
my clients, a bunch of money every month.  

Still, if I were ever unfortunate enough to end up
in Detroit again, I'd definitely drop in, because
I made some interesting friends there...






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