--- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > > --- In [email protected], "card" <cardemaister@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In [email protected], "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> 
> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > --- In [email protected], wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > > > > > --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "salyavin808" 
> > > > > > > > <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I believe I posted a planetary configuration in Liberace's 
> > > > > > > > chart. He had the combination of Rahu and the Moon in the 
> > > > > > > > 12th house in the sign of Scorpio. He had the option not 
> > > > > > > > to engage in gay sex. But he chose to engage in it. As 
> > > > > > > > such, it was highly likely he would catch AIDs. And, in 
> > > > > > > > the end, he did and was fatal.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Please relate for us the story of the day you 
> > > > > > > made a choice to be heterosexual. We'll wait.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's the default position, you know, Adam and Eve, 
> > > > > > not Adam and Steve! Think harmony with the laws of 
> > > > > > nature Turq, harmony.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Adam and Eve huh? You know, if god made Eve out of Adam's rib
> > > > > then they shared DNA, which makes them brother and sister.
> > > > > Which is incest. Now *that* is a law of nature being broken!
> > > > 
> > > > Almost everyone even in Minnesota might well know, that that's
> > > > based on mistranslation of a Hebrew word!
> > > 
> > > Has everyone on this forum LOST THEIR MINDS? 
> > 
> > Well, perhaps but not "everyone" is talking about or evidently believes in 
> > the existence of Adam and Eve once upon a time.
> > > 
> > > "Adam and Eve" is a MYTH. 
> > 
> > Of course it is, I am not sure there is one person here who doesn't think 
> > so.
> > > 
> > > As is God. 
> > 
> > That, of course, is less obviously so.
> > > 
> > > As is the concept of anyone, anywhere, at any point
> > > in time "knowing" what the "Laws Of Nature" are. 
> > 
> > Perhaps not the "concept" but most likely the 'reality'. Are you sure "Laws 
> > of Nature" actually exist? And if so, how do they differ from the laws of 
> > physics?
> > > 
> > > Someday I'd love for homophobes to actually "come out"
> > > and be HONEST. They hate the idea of gay sex because
> > > either they've been taught to by generations of homo-
> > > phobes before them, many of them posing as "religious"
> > > leaders claiming to "know" things that no human can
> > > know (and many of them closet homosexuals themselves), 
> > > or they're terrified that THEY might have had a few 
> > > gay sex impulses themselves, or both. 
> > 
> > I don't believe that you are really, in actual fact, interested in hearing 
> > or knowing this. It is pure theoretical postulating on your part. You no 
> > more want to sit and listen to a homophobe be 'honest' than you want your 
> > Jyotish chart done by Ravi.
> > > 
> > > Such beliefs strike me as an INSULT to the very idea
> > > of God, if one believed in one. How could *anyone*
> > > imagine that a God would be such a micromanager and
> > > such a prude that He/She/It would give a shit what
> > > any of His/Her/Its creations do with their convex or
> > > concave parts. After all, He/She/It created over
> > > 1,500 species on planet Earth that display homosexual
> > > behavior. 
> > 
> > There is no God, Barry, so this argument is moot.
> 
> Ann,
> 
> You seem to believe that this statement is true.  Can you prove it?

I absolutely don't believe that statement. I was riffing off Barry's "no God" 
assertion. In my world, in my reality, there is most definitely a God and a 
very personal one at that.
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> > > 
> > > Did He/She/It just *fuck up* when doing that, or 
> > > should it be taken as a sign that humans' fear of 
> > > such behavior is THEIR prejudice, not God's?
> > 
> > You are running with some mistaken notion of what "everyone" here thinks 
> > and going CRAZY! Calm down, you are imagining things.
> > > 
> > > AIDS is similarly a *disease*, without prejudice. It
> > > became associated with gay behavior *by accident*,
> > > not by any cosmic design, and similarly afflicts
> > > those who indulge in straight sex. HIV/AIDS is a 
> > > global pandemic, and as of 2011 approximately 34 
> > > million people have HIV worldwide. Of these, 
> > > approximately 17.2 million are men, 16.8 million 
> > > are women and 3.4 million are less than 15 years 
> > > old. There were about 1.8 million deaths from AIDS 
> > > in 2010, down from 2.2 million in 2005.
> > > 
> > > If "your" God did all that just to punish "bad"
> > > behavior in gay people, you can *have* the malignant,
> > > sadistic motherfucker. I want no part of anyone or
> > > anything that insane, or anyone who reveres Him/Her/It.
> > 
> > Who are you talking to here at FFL? Oh, nobody, you just like to rant. 
> > Sorry, carry on.
> > >
> >
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