Your intuitive powers are amazing, Ann, but it wasn't a polka dot cravat. 
Although my birth circumstances were traumatic, I do recall the distinct image 
of a yatchsman's cap, set at a jaunty angle, on the obstetrician's head, during 
my delivery. As I emerged, he turned to the the attending team, and declared, 
"Ahoy, Mateys!!". Some ascribe this to one of my Houses being in foreclosure. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Share, Well now, that is a little weird for me to digest: "Saturn 
> > exalted in 7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his wife is 
> > older than him." 
> > 
> > Au contraire - my marriage is happy, *because* my wife and I work to 
> > understand ourselves, and each other. We have had huge challenges, by 
> > taking on a lot of extended family responsibilities, and gotten through 
> > them together, through our love and commitment to each other. I am afraid 
> > Saturn, and her rings, had very little to do with it.
> 
> Thank you for this clarification Doc. I was always under the impression that 
> if the room you were born in was white and the attending doctor was wearing a 
> polka dot cravat underneath his scrubs and there was a linoleum floor in the 
> unusual colour of light mauve under the birthing bed then your marriage would 
> be to an older woman who you would come to love and respect through all sorts 
> of trials and tribulations. Who woulda thought that love, devotion, 
> commitment and wisdom had anything to do with a successful and loving 
> marriage?? And as for poor Saturn with all those lovely gaseous rings, where 
> does it fit into the picture? 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Saturn exalted in 7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his 
> > > wife is older than him. Hey Ravi, what about his being premature? Where 
> > > is that in the chart? Maybe just the Aries ascendent? Look, I'm an 
> > > amateur compared to you and John but I like speculating, ok?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@>
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Yes dear Share I realized that after I sent my message.
> > > 
> > > But my heart - just doesn't understand, it stupidly yearns, grieves, 
> > > fantasizes for some connection, any connection with Tantra Guru Barry :-(.
> > > 
> > > We may be safe with Doc's Aries Lagna, Saturn in 7th.
> > > 
> > > On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > >Ravi, I think turq's birthday is Dec 18. I remember because my maternal 
> > > >grandmother's is the day before. Anyway, that makes him Sun in Sag in 
> > > >both Western and jyotish, right? As for purpose, IMHO the growth and 
> > > >happiness of any one of us can enliven the growth and happiness of us 
> > > >all.
> > > >BTW, I'm having fun considering whether Doc is Aries or Taurus 
> > > >ascendent. Either makes sense, especially as I've seen a photo of him. 
> > > >So I'm also looking at it from the perspective of his 7th house. Does 
> > > >his marriage sound more like Libra or more like Scorpio?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@>
> > > >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > > >Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:42 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >And that's my Sun in 2nd in Capricorn - that practical, realist. As 
> > > >Tantra Guru Barry so beautifully said (and probably never followed it 
> > > >personally) - "What purpose does this all serve? Whose suffering does it 
> > > >resolve?"
> > > >
> > > >Oh Tantra Guru Barry must have his Sun in Sidereal Capricorn - a tear in 
> > > >my eye.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Well dear Share - my brand of astrology is the best of Western 
> > > >(personality analysis, individualistic) and Eastern (zodiac, principles) 
> > > >and eliminates all unprovable philosophy/dogma - i.e. past lives, Karma, 
> > > >reincarnation, gems and/or other bullshit religious remedies, as long as 
> > > >the ascendant is good I am happy. Haven't found any use for any 
> > > >harmonics for my analysis as of yet.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >>>  
> > > >>>John, Ravi and noozguru my birth time was written down on my birth 
> > > >>>certificate as 2:55 pm which is much less suspect than 3 pm. 
> > > >>>Nonetheless one jyotishi said if that was my true birth time I would 
> > > >>>have been a boy! So he did a rectification, ended up with a time after 
> > > >>>after 3 and that did not feel right to me. The best rectification was 
> > > >>>done by Prasannan, who used to be Amma's jyotishi. He put the time at 
> > > >>>2:48:30 and that felt right to me. He simply asked me if I knew my 
> > > >>>Dad's mother and I said yes and gave details. That was the basis of 
> > > >>>his rectification which I found fascinating. Have any of you heard of 
> > > >>>this technique for rectifying birth times? 
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>________________________________
> > > >>> From: Bhairitu <noozguru@>
> > > >>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > >>>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:49 PM
> > > >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  
> > > >>>If anything, in the US the birth times are usually written down later 
> > > >>>than the actual birth time.  Back in those days the doctor would 
> > > >>>deliver 
> > > >>>the kid and then take a smoke break and write down on the birth 
> > > >>>certificate the time that was on the clock.  Supposedly later a nurses 
> > > >>>association lobbied for accurate birth times.  It was suspected for 
> > > >>>astrological purposes but I wouldn't be surprised if hospital legal 
> > > >>>councils got on-board due to possible legal ramifications not having 
> > > >>>anything to do with astrology.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Happy Birthday.  You now have a year before officially becoming an old 
> > > >>>fart though of course at 59 1/2 you can take money out of those 
> > > >>>retirement accounts without penalty.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>On 06/20/2013 02:45 PM, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > >>>> Forgot to add that I think the birth time is accurate, as it is 
> > > >>>> taken from my birth certificate.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> 
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> Thank you, Ravi! Yes, I am looking forward to my 60th! Aries 
> > > >>>>> ascendant  is fine, also. I know nothing about this process, so I 
> > > >>>>> will just answer your questions for you.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > >>>>> <chivukula.ravi@> wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Ah I failed to notice your birthday, so wrapped up I was in 
> > > >>>>>> planets, signs
> > > >>>>>> and houses I forgot there are days tied to a chart, and there are 
> > > >>>>>> birthdays
> > > >>>>>> :-)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Happy Birthday Jim - hope you have a good one !!!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> In India the 60th birthday is sort of a milestone - astrologically 
> > > >>>>>> Jupiter
> > > >>>>>> and Saturn return to their exact natal position in 60 years. So I 
> > > >>>>>> suppose
> > > >>>>>> the person reaches full maturity, wisdom (unless of course your 
> > > >>>>>> first name
> > > >>>>>> is Barry and last name Wright).
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Coming to your birth chart - my vote is for the Aries ascendant, 
> > > >>>>>> this is
> > > >>>>>> based upon on my perceptions of you. Of course then your 3:28 AM 
> > > >>>>>> time
> > > >>>>>> raises the question of whether it is a rectified TOB - is this 
> > > >>>>>> true?
> > > >>>>>> Because TOB is usually rounded off to the nearest quarter hour, in 
> > > >>>>>> my case
> > > >>>>>> my TOB is 7:00 AM.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> But if you disagree with Aries ascendant - I will present my 
> > > >>>>>> arguments for
> > > >>>>>> it and we can discuss.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Ravi
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:55 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> > > >>>>>> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> **
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Hi Ravi, using PDT is correct. The second paragraph is overall 
> > > >>>>>>> closer to
> > > >>>>>>> daily life. I have a lot of characteristics of the first, 
> > > >>>>>>> particularly when
> > > >>>>>>> I had a career, but comparing the two, I am more the second one.
> > > >>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > > >>>>>>> <chivukula.ravi@>
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> Jim - a small issue, pulled up your chart and your Ascendant is 
> > > >>>>>>>> right at
> > > >>>>>>>> the cusp - 29Ar33. A minute and half later and the Ascendant 
> > > >>>>>>>> changes to
> > > >>>>>>>> Taurus (this is the sidereal zodiac mind you). I also have the 
> > > >>>>>>>> summer
> > > >>>>>>> time
> > > >>>>>>>> (PDT) - so confirm this before I proceed.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think identifies you - the first or 
> > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>> second
> > > >>>>>>>> paragraph.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> You in you daily life are dynamic, energetic, enthusiastic, 
> > > >>>>>>>> quick to take
> > > >>>>>>>> initiative, react quickly. You have spent lot of your 
> > > >>>>>>>> intelligence in
> > > >>>>>>> your
> > > >>>>>>>> life for an ideal or a cause, excited by the adventure and 
> > > >>>>>>>> freedom,
> > > >>>>>>> belief
> > > >>>>>>>> in order, structure, respect for teachers,authoritarian figures.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> You in your daily life are more steady, methodical, deliberate,
> > > >>>>>>> practical.
> > > >>>>>>>> You are laidback, love pleasures of the sense - you spend lot of 
> > > >>>>>>>> your
> > > >>>>>>>> intelligence in your life nurturing your connection to nature, 
> > > >>>>>>>> land,
> > > >>>>>>> home,
> > > >>>>>>>> comfort, care towards family (though you must have felt weighed 
> > > >>>>>>>> down by
> > > >>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>> responsibilities).
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Remember some of these themes may recur regardless of your 
> > > >>>>>>>> ascendant so
> > > >>>>>>>> choose one that really identifies you - the first one is Aries 
> > > >>>>>>>> Ascendant
> > > >>>>>>>> with Mars in 9th whereas the latter Taurus Ascendant with Venus 
> > > >>>>>>>> in 3rd.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I personally think Aries ascendant, your time of 3:28 is good - 
> > > >>>>>>>> but do
> > > >>>>>>> let
> > > >>>>>>>> me know what you think.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM, doctordumbass@ <
> > > >>>>>>>> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> **
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Hey Ravi, my two cents, as a dabbler in the stars, this 
> > > >>>>>>>>> analysis seemed
> > > >>>>>>>>> deeper, more refined, than the one you wrote for Ann. Piques my
> > > >>>>>>> interest. I
> > > >>>>>>>>> took my first breath, here, at 3:28 AM, June 20th, 1954, in 
> > > >>>>>>>>> Chula
> > > >>>>>>> Vista,
> > > >>>>>>>>> California. What does that reflect?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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