Hi Share, Well now, that is a little weird for me to digest: "Saturn exalted in 
7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his wife is older than him." 

Au contraire - my marriage is happy, *because* my wife and I work to understand 
ourselves, and each other. We have had huge challenges, by taking on a lot of 
extended family responsibilities, and gotten through them together, through our 
love and commitment to each other. I am afraid Saturn, and her rings, had very 
little to do with it.

--- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
>
> Saturn exalted in 7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his wife is 
> older than him. Hey Ravi, what about his being premature? Where is that in 
> the chart? Maybe just the Aries ascendent? Look, I'm an amateur compared to 
> you and John but I like speculating, ok?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Yes dear Share I realized that after I sent my message.
> 
> But my heart - just doesn't understand, it stupidly yearns, grieves, 
> fantasizes for some connection, any connection with Tantra Guru Barry :-(.
> 
> We may be safe with Doc's Aries Lagna, Saturn in 7th.
> 
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
> 
> 
>   
> >Ravi, I think turq's birthday is Dec 18. I remember because my maternal 
> >grandmother's is the day before. Anyway, that makes him Sun in Sag in both 
> >Western and jyotish, right? As for purpose, IMHO the growth and happiness of 
> >any one of us can enliven the growth and happiness of us all.
> >BTW, I'm having fun considering whether Doc is Aries or Taurus ascendent. 
> >Either makes sense, especially as I've seen a photo of him. So I'm also 
> >looking at it from the perspective of his 7th house. Does his marriage sound 
> >more like Libra or more like Scorpio?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...>
> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> >Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:42 PM
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > 
> >
> >
> >  
> >And that's my Sun in 2nd in Capricorn - that practical, realist. As Tantra 
> >Guru Barry so beautifully said (and probably never followed it personally) - 
> >"What purpose does this all serve? Whose suffering does it resolve?"
> >
> >Oh Tantra Guru Barry must have his Sun in Sidereal Capricorn - a tear in my 
> >eye.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote:
> >
> >Well dear Share - my brand of astrology is the best of Western (personality 
> >analysis, individualistic) and Eastern (zodiac, principles) and eliminates 
> >all unprovable philosophy/dogma - i.e. past lives, Karma, reincarnation, 
> >gems and/or other bullshit religious remedies, as long as the ascendant is 
> >good I am happy. Haven't found any use for any harmonics for my analysis as 
> >of yet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>>  
> >>>John, Ravi and noozguru my birth time was written down on my birth 
> >>>certificate as 2:55 pm which is much less suspect than 3 pm. Nonetheless 
> >>>one jyotishi said if that was my true birth time I would have been a boy! 
> >>>So he did a rectification, ended up with a time after after 3 and that did 
> >>>not feel right to me. The best rectification was done by Prasannan, who 
> >>>used to be Amma's jyotishi. He put the time at 2:48:30 and that felt right 
> >>>to me. He simply asked me if I knew my Dad's mother and I said yes and 
> >>>gave details. That was the basis of his rectification which I found 
> >>>fascinating. Have any of you heard of this technique for rectifying birth 
> >>>times? 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>________________________________
> >>> From: Bhairitu <noozguru@...>
> >>>To: [email protected] 
> >>>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:49 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>If anything, in the US the birth times are usually written down later 
> >>>than the actual birth time.  Back in those days the doctor would deliver 
> >>>the kid and then take a smoke break and write down on the birth 
> >>>certificate the time that was on the clock.  Supposedly later a nurses 
> >>>association lobbied for accurate birth times.  It was suspected for 
> >>>astrological purposes but I wouldn't be surprised if hospital legal 
> >>>councils got on-board due to possible legal ramifications not having 
> >>>anything to do with astrology.
> >>>
> >>>Happy Birthday.  You now have a year before officially becoming an old 
> >>>fart though of course at 59 1/2 you can take money out of those 
> >>>retirement accounts without penalty.
> >>>
> >>>On 06/20/2013 02:45 PM, doctordumbass@... wrote:
> >>>> Forgot to add that I think the birth time is accurate, as it is taken 
> >>>> from my birth certificate.
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> >>>>> Thank you, Ravi! Yes, I am looking forward to my 60th! Aries ascendant  
> >>>>> is fine, also. I know nothing about this process, so I will just answer 
> >>>>> your questions for you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ah I failed to notice your birthday, so wrapped up I was in planets, 
> >>>>>> signs
> >>>>>> and houses I forgot there are days tied to a chart, and there are 
> >>>>>> birthdays
> >>>>>> :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Happy Birthday Jim - hope you have a good one !!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In India the 60th birthday is sort of a milestone - astrologically 
> >>>>>> Jupiter
> >>>>>> and Saturn return to their exact natal position in 60 years. So I 
> >>>>>> suppose
> >>>>>> the person reaches full maturity, wisdom (unless of course your first 
> >>>>>> name
> >>>>>> is Barry and last name Wright).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Coming to your birth chart - my vote is for the Aries ascendant, this 
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> based upon on my perceptions of you. Of course then your 3:28 AM time
> >>>>>> raises the question of whether it is a rectified TOB - is this true?
> >>>>>> Because TOB is usually rounded off to the nearest quarter hour, in my 
> >>>>>> case
> >>>>>> my TOB is 7:00 AM.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But if you disagree with Aries ascendant - I will present my arguments 
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> it and we can discuss.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ravi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:55 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Ravi, using PDT is correct. The second paragraph is overall closer 
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> daily life. I have a lot of characteristics of the first, 
> >>>>>>> particularly when
> >>>>>>> I had a career, but comparing the two, I am more the second one.
> >>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Jim - a small issue, pulled up your chart and your Ascendant is 
> >>>>>>>> right at
> >>>>>>>> the cusp - 29Ar33. A minute and half later and the Ascendant changes 
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> Taurus (this is the sidereal zodiac mind you). I also have the summer
> >>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>> (PDT) - so confirm this before I proceed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think identifies you - the first or the
> >>>>>>> second
> >>>>>>>> paragraph.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You in you daily life are dynamic, energetic, enthusiastic, quick to 
> >>>>>>>> take
> >>>>>>>> initiative, react quickly. You have spent lot of your intelligence in
> >>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>> life for an ideal or a cause, excited by the adventure and freedom,
> >>>>>>> belief
> >>>>>>>> in order, structure, respect for teachers,authoritarian figures.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You in your daily life are more steady, methodical, deliberate,
> >>>>>>> practical.
> >>>>>>>> You are laidback, love pleasures of the sense - you spend lot of your
> >>>>>>>> intelligence in your life nurturing your connection to nature, land,
> >>>>>>> home,
> >>>>>>>> comfort, care towards family (though you must have felt weighed down 
> >>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> responsibilities).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Remember some of these themes may recur regardless of your ascendant 
> >>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>> choose one that really identifies you - the first one is Aries 
> >>>>>>>> Ascendant
> >>>>>>>> with Mars in 9th whereas the latter Taurus Ascendant with Venus in 
> >>>>>>>> 3rd.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I personally think Aries ascendant, your time of 3:28 is good - but 
> >>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>> let
> >>>>>>>> me know what you think.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM, doctordumbass@ <
> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Ravi, my two cents, as a dabbler in the stars, this analysis 
> >>>>>>>>> seemed
> >>>>>>>>> deeper, more refined, than the one you wrote for Ann. Piques my
> >>>>>>> interest. I
> >>>>>>>>> took my first breath, here, at 3:28 AM, June 20th, 1954, in Chula
> >>>>>>> Vista,
> >>>>>>>>> California. What does that reflect?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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