--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Share, Well now, that is a little weird for me to digest: "Saturn exalted 
> in 7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his wife is older than 
> him." 
> 
> Au contraire - my marriage is happy, *because* my wife and I work to 
> understand ourselves, and each other. We have had huge challenges, by taking 
> on a lot of extended family responsibilities, and gotten through them 
> together, through our love and commitment to each other. I am afraid Saturn, 
> and her rings, had very little to do with it.

Thank you for this clarification Doc. I was always under the impression that if 
the room you were born in was white and the attending doctor was wearing a 
polka dot cravat underneath his scrubs and there was a linoleum floor in the 
unusual colour of light mauve under the birthing bed then your marriage would 
be to an older woman who you would come to love and respect through all sorts 
of trials and tribulations. Who woulda thought that love, devotion, commitment 
and wisdom had anything to do with a successful and loving marriage?? And as 
for poor Saturn with all those lovely gaseous rings, where does it fit into the 
picture? 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> >
> > Saturn exalted in 7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his wife 
> > is older than him. Hey Ravi, what about his being premature? Where is that 
> > in the chart? Maybe just the Aries ascendent? Look, I'm an amateur compared 
> > to you and John but I like speculating, ok?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@>
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Yes dear Share I realized that after I sent my message.
> > 
> > But my heart - just doesn't understand, it stupidly yearns, grieves, 
> > fantasizes for some connection, any connection with Tantra Guru Barry :-(.
> > 
> > We may be safe with Doc's Aries Lagna, Saturn in 7th.
> > 
> > On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > >Ravi, I think turq's birthday is Dec 18. I remember because my maternal 
> > >grandmother's is the day before. Anyway, that makes him Sun in Sag in both 
> > >Western and jyotish, right? As for purpose, IMHO the growth and happiness 
> > >of any one of us can enliven the growth and happiness of us all.
> > >BTW, I'm having fun considering whether Doc is Aries or Taurus ascendent. 
> > >Either makes sense, especially as I've seen a photo of him. So I'm also 
> > >looking at it from the perspective of his 7th house. Does his marriage 
> > >sound more like Libra or more like Scorpio?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@>
> > >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:42 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >And that's my Sun in 2nd in Capricorn - that practical, realist. As Tantra 
> > >Guru Barry so beautifully said (and probably never followed it personally) 
> > >- "What purpose does this all serve? Whose suffering does it resolve?"
> > >
> > >Oh Tantra Guru Barry must have his Sun in Sidereal Capricorn - a tear in 
> > >my eye.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> wrote:
> > >
> > >Well dear Share - my brand of astrology is the best of Western 
> > >(personality analysis, individualistic) and Eastern (zodiac, principles) 
> > >and eliminates all unprovable philosophy/dogma - i.e. past lives, Karma, 
> > >reincarnation, gems and/or other bullshit religious remedies, as long as 
> > >the ascendant is good I am happy. Haven't found any use for any harmonics 
> > >for my analysis as of yet.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>>  
> > >>>John, Ravi and noozguru my birth time was written down on my birth 
> > >>>certificate as 2:55 pm which is much less suspect than 3 pm. Nonetheless 
> > >>>one jyotishi said if that was my true birth time I would have been a 
> > >>>boy! So he did a rectification, ended up with a time after after 3 and 
> > >>>that did not feel right to me. The best rectification was done by 
> > >>>Prasannan, who used to be Amma's jyotishi. He put the time at 2:48:30 
> > >>>and that felt right to me. He simply asked me if I knew my Dad's mother 
> > >>>and I said yes and gave details. That was the basis of his rectification 
> > >>>which I found fascinating. Have any of you heard of this technique for 
> > >>>rectifying birth times? 
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>________________________________
> > >>> From: Bhairitu <noozguru@>
> > >>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > >>>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:49 PM
> > >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > >>> 
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  
> > >>>If anything, in the US the birth times are usually written down later 
> > >>>than the actual birth time.  Back in those days the doctor would deliver 
> > >>>the kid and then take a smoke break and write down on the birth 
> > >>>certificate the time that was on the clock.  Supposedly later a nurses 
> > >>>association lobbied for accurate birth times.  It was suspected for 
> > >>>astrological purposes but I wouldn't be surprised if hospital legal 
> > >>>councils got on-board due to possible legal ramifications not having 
> > >>>anything to do with astrology.
> > >>>
> > >>>Happy Birthday.  You now have a year before officially becoming an old 
> > >>>fart though of course at 59 1/2 you can take money out of those 
> > >>>retirement accounts without penalty.
> > >>>
> > >>>On 06/20/2013 02:45 PM, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >>>> Forgot to add that I think the birth time is accurate, as it is taken 
> > >>>> from my birth certificate.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >>>>> Thank you, Ravi! Yes, I am looking forward to my 60th! Aries 
> > >>>>> ascendant  is fine, also. I know nothing about this process, so I 
> > >>>>> will just answer your questions for you.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > >>>>> <chivukula.ravi@> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Ah I failed to notice your birthday, so wrapped up I was in planets, 
> > >>>>>> signs
> > >>>>>> and houses I forgot there are days tied to a chart, and there are 
> > >>>>>> birthdays
> > >>>>>> :-)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Happy Birthday Jim - hope you have a good one !!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> In India the 60th birthday is sort of a milestone - astrologically 
> > >>>>>> Jupiter
> > >>>>>> and Saturn return to their exact natal position in 60 years. So I 
> > >>>>>> suppose
> > >>>>>> the person reaches full maturity, wisdom (unless of course your 
> > >>>>>> first name
> > >>>>>> is Barry and last name Wright).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Coming to your birth chart - my vote is for the Aries ascendant, 
> > >>>>>> this is
> > >>>>>> based upon on my perceptions of you. Of course then your 3:28 AM time
> > >>>>>> raises the question of whether it is a rectified TOB - is this true?
> > >>>>>> Because TOB is usually rounded off to the nearest quarter hour, in 
> > >>>>>> my case
> > >>>>>> my TOB is 7:00 AM.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But if you disagree with Aries ascendant - I will present my 
> > >>>>>> arguments for
> > >>>>>> it and we can discuss.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ravi
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:55 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> > >>>>>> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> **
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Ravi, using PDT is correct. The second paragraph is overall 
> > >>>>>>> closer to
> > >>>>>>> daily life. I have a lot of characteristics of the first, 
> > >>>>>>> particularly when
> > >>>>>>> I had a career, but comparing the two, I am more the second one.
> > >>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > >>>>>>> <chivukula.ravi@>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Jim - a small issue, pulled up your chart and your Ascendant is 
> > >>>>>>>> right at
> > >>>>>>>> the cusp - 29Ar33. A minute and half later and the Ascendant 
> > >>>>>>>> changes to
> > >>>>>>>> Taurus (this is the sidereal zodiac mind you). I also have the 
> > >>>>>>>> summer
> > >>>>>>> time
> > >>>>>>>> (PDT) - so confirm this before I proceed.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think identifies you - the first or the
> > >>>>>>> second
> > >>>>>>>> paragraph.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You in you daily life are dynamic, energetic, enthusiastic, quick 
> > >>>>>>>> to take
> > >>>>>>>> initiative, react quickly. You have spent lot of your intelligence 
> > >>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>> life for an ideal or a cause, excited by the adventure and freedom,
> > >>>>>>> belief
> > >>>>>>>> in order, structure, respect for teachers,authoritarian figures.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You in your daily life are more steady, methodical, deliberate,
> > >>>>>>> practical.
> > >>>>>>>> You are laidback, love pleasures of the sense - you spend lot of 
> > >>>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>> intelligence in your life nurturing your connection to nature, 
> > >>>>>>>> land,
> > >>>>>>> home,
> > >>>>>>>> comfort, care towards family (though you must have felt weighed 
> > >>>>>>>> down by
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> responsibilities).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Remember some of these themes may recur regardless of your 
> > >>>>>>>> ascendant so
> > >>>>>>>> choose one that really identifies you - the first one is Aries 
> > >>>>>>>> Ascendant
> > >>>>>>>> with Mars in 9th whereas the latter Taurus Ascendant with Venus in 
> > >>>>>>>> 3rd.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I personally think Aries ascendant, your time of 3:28 is good - 
> > >>>>>>>> but do
> > >>>>>>> let
> > >>>>>>>> me know what you think.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM, doctordumbass@ <
> > >>>>>>>> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> **
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hey Ravi, my two cents, as a dabbler in the stars, this analysis 
> > >>>>>>>>> seemed
> > >>>>>>>>> deeper, more refined, than the one you wrote for Ann. Piques my
> > >>>>>>> interest. I
> > >>>>>>>>> took my first breath, here, at 3:28 AM, June 20th, 1954, in Chula
> > >>>>>>> Vista,
> > >>>>>>>>> California. What does that reflect?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
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