That is where I figured you were going, but this is marriage numero dos, so it 
doesn't appear to fit the template as neatly.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, Doc, rushing like a Gemini. Of course you are right about all kinds of 
> rings, Saturn's, your wedding rings, etc. I was taking a jyotish perspective. 
> I simply meant that it's obvious your marriage is happy and you've mentioned 
> that your wife is older than you. Saturn could indicate that. I have a friend 
> who also has Saturn in Libra aspecting the 7th and his wife is also older 
> than him. And that Saturn is exalted in Libra, very happy there, indicates 
> that marriage would be happy. For me jyotish is not about cause and effect so 
> much as about correlation. Does that make sense?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." <doctordumbass@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:31 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Hi Share, Well now, that is a little weird for me to digest: "Saturn exalted 
> in 7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his wife is older than 
> him." 
> 
> Au contraire - my marriage is happy, *because* my wife and I work to 
> understand ourselves, and each other. We have had huge challenges, by taking 
> on a lot of extended family responsibilities, and gotten through them 
> together, through our love and commitment to each other. I am afraid Saturn, 
> and her rings, had very little to do with it.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> >
> > Saturn exalted in 7th?! Yes, given that his marriage is happy and his wife 
> > is older than him. Hey Ravi, what about his being premature? Where is that 
> > in the chart? Maybe just the Aries ascendent? Look, I'm an amateur compared 
> > to you and John but I like speculating, ok?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@>
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Yes dear Share I realized that after I sent my message.
> > 
> > But my heart - just doesn't understand, it stupidly yearns, grieves, 
> > fantasizes for some connection, any connection with Tantra Guru Barry :-(.
> > 
> > We may be safe with Doc's Aries Lagna, Saturn in 7th.
> > 
> > On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > >Ravi, I think turq's birthday is Dec 18. I remember because my maternal 
> > >grandmother's is the day before. Anyway, that makes him Sun in Sag in both 
> > >Western and jyotish, right? As for purpose, IMHO the growth and happiness 
> > >of any one of us can enliven the growth and happiness of us all.
> > >BTW, I'm having fun considering whether Doc is Aries or Taurus ascendent. 
> > >Either makes sense, especially as I've seen a photo of him. So I'm also 
> > >looking at it from the perspective of his 7th house. Does his marriage 
> > >sound more like Libra or more like Scorpio?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@>
> > >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:42 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >And that's my Sun in 2nd in Capricorn - that practical, realist. As Tantra 
> > >Guru Barry so beautifully said (and probably never followed it personally) 
> > >- "What purpose does this all serve? Whose suffering does it resolve?"
> > >
> > >Oh Tantra Guru Barry must have his Sun in Sidereal Capricorn - a tear in 
> > >my eye.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> wrote:
> > >
> > >Well dear Share - my brand of astrology is the best of Western 
> > >(personality analysis, individualistic) and Eastern (zodiac, principles) 
> > >and eliminates all unprovable philosophy/dogma - i.e. past lives, Karma, 
> > >reincarnation, gems and/or other bullshit religious remedies, as long as 
> > >the ascendant is good I am happy. Haven't found any use for any harmonics 
> > >for my analysis as of yet.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>>  
> > >>>John, Ravi and noozguru my birth time was written down on my birth 
> > >>>certificate as 2:55 pm which is much less suspect than 3 pm. Nonetheless 
> > >>>one jyotishi said if that was my true birth time I would have been a 
> > >>>boy! So he did a rectification, ended up with a time after after 3 and 
> > >>>that did not feel right to me. The best rectification was done by 
> > >>>Prasannan, who used to be Amma's jyotishi. He put the time at 2:48:30 
> > >>>and that felt right to me. He simply asked me if I knew my Dad's mother 
> > >>>and I said yes and gave details. That was the basis of his rectification 
> > >>>which I found fascinating. Have any of you heard of this technique for 
> > >>>rectifying birth times? 
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>________________________________
> > >>> From: Bhairitu <noozguru@>
> > >>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > >>>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:49 PM
> > >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis
> > >>> 
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  
> > >>>If anything, in the US the birth times are usually written down later 
> > >>>than the actual birth time.  Back in those days the doctor would deliver 
> > >>>the kid and then take a smoke break and write down on the birth 
> > >>>certificate the time that was on the clock.  Supposedly later a nurses 
> > >>>association lobbied for accurate birth times.  It was suspected for 
> > >>>astrological purposes but I wouldn't be surprised if hospital legal 
> > >>>councils got on-board due to possible legal ramifications not having 
> > >>>anything to do with astrology.
> > >>>
> > >>>Happy Birthday.  You now have a year before officially becoming an old 
> > >>>fart though of course at 59 1/2 you can take money out of those 
> > >>>retirement accounts without penalty.
> > >>>
> > >>>On 06/20/2013 02:45 PM, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >>>> Forgot to add that I think the birth time is accurate, as it is taken 
> > >>>> from my birth certificate.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >>>>> Thank you, Ravi! Yes, I am looking forward to my 60th! Aries 
> > >>>>> ascendant  is fine, also. I know nothing about this process, so I 
> > >>>>> will just answer your questions for you.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > >>>>> <chivukula.ravi@> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Ah I failed to notice your birthday, so wrapped up I was in planets, 
> > >>>>>> signs
> > >>>>>> and houses I forgot there are days tied to a chart, and there are 
> > >>>>>> birthdays
> > >>>>>> :-)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Happy Birthday Jim - hope you have a good one !!!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> In India the 60th birthday is sort of a milestone - astrologically 
> > >>>>>> Jupiter
> > >>>>>> and Saturn return to their exact natal position in 60 years. So I 
> > >>>>>> suppose
> > >>>>>> the person reaches full maturity, wisdom (unless of course your 
> > >>>>>> first name
> > >>>>>> is Barry and last name Wright).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Coming to your birth chart - my vote is for the Aries ascendant, 
> > >>>>>> this is
> > >>>>>> based upon on my perceptions of you. Of course then your 3:28 AM time
> > >>>>>> raises the question of whether it is a rectified TOB - is this true?
> > >>>>>> Because TOB is usually rounded off to the nearest quarter hour, in 
> > >>>>>> my case
> > >>>>>> my TOB is 7:00 AM.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But if you disagree with Aries ascendant - I will present my 
> > >>>>>> arguments for
> > >>>>>> it and we can discuss.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ravi
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:55 AM, doctordumbass@ <
> > >>>>>> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> **
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Ravi, using PDT is correct. The second paragraph is overall 
> > >>>>>>> closer to
> > >>>>>>> daily life. I have a lot of characteristics of the first, 
> > >>>>>>> particularly when
> > >>>>>>> I had a career, but comparing the two, I am more the second one.
> > >>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> > >>>>>>> <chivukula.ravi@>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Jim - a small issue, pulled up your chart and your Ascendant is 
> > >>>>>>>> right at
> > >>>>>>>> the cusp - 29Ar33. A minute and half later and the Ascendant 
> > >>>>>>>> changes to
> > >>>>>>>> Taurus (this is the sidereal zodiac mind you). I also have the 
> > >>>>>>>> summer
> > >>>>>>> time
> > >>>>>>>> (PDT) - so confirm this before I proceed.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Please let me know what you think identifies you - the first or the
> > >>>>>>> second
> > >>>>>>>> paragraph.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You in you daily life are dynamic, energetic, enthusiastic, quick 
> > >>>>>>>> to take
> > >>>>>>>> initiative, react quickly. You have spent lot of your intelligence 
> > >>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>> life for an ideal or a cause, excited by the adventure and freedom,
> > >>>>>>> belief
> > >>>>>>>> in order, structure, respect for teachers,authoritarian figures.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> You in your daily life are more steady, methodical, deliberate,
> > >>>>>>> practical.
> > >>>>>>>> You are laidback, love pleasures of the sense - you spend lot of 
> > >>>>>>>> your
> > >>>>>>>> intelligence in your life nurturing your connection to nature, 
> > >>>>>>>> land,
> > >>>>>>> home,
> > >>>>>>>> comfort, care towards family (though you must have felt weighed 
> > >>>>>>>> down by
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> responsibilities).
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Remember some of these themes may recur regardless of your 
> > >>>>>>>> ascendant so
> > >>>>>>>> choose one that really identifies you - the first one is Aries 
> > >>>>>>>> Ascendant
> > >>>>>>>> with Mars in 9th whereas the latter Taurus Ascendant with Venus in 
> > >>>>>>>> 3rd.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I personally think Aries ascendant, your time of 3:28 is good - 
> > >>>>>>>> but do
> > >>>>>>> let
> > >>>>>>>> me know what you think.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM, doctordumbass@ <
> > >>>>>>>> no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> **
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hey Ravi, my two cents, as a dabbler in the stars, this analysis 
> > >>>>>>>>> seemed
> > >>>>>>>>> deeper, more refined, than the one you wrote for Ann. Piques my
> > >>>>>>> interest. I
> > >>>>>>>>> took my first breath, here, at 3:28 AM, June 20th, 1954, in Chula
> > >>>>>>> Vista,
> > >>>>>>>>> California. What does that reflect?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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