It seems like the people most interested in curing these npd and socio/psycho-paths are those who feel threatened by their behavior. I am not referring to anyone here, necessarily, but probably the best way to cure those people, is by responding appropriately to them.
Intuition is a huge help in recognizing people like that - if it doesn't smell right, it isn't right. Once they see it doesn't work, they may possibly seek treatment. As long as their schtick works, though, no problem-o, from their perspective. Seems like a bonafide first world problem - not something anyone just a smidge, or two, closer to natural processes, would encounter, or even think about, overruled by the growling of their stomach, to catch, or harvest a meal. However, makes for great mental fodder, while cruising the aisles of Safeway. --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Xeno, sorry for attributing to you the idea of NPD's incurability. I took it > as tacit agreement when you left in that strong statement at the beginning of > the article. I was wrong to do so. Just to repeat that I'm very encouraged by > the work Dr. Behary is doing in the field of NPD. I think both she and Dr. > Siegel, whose focus is on other disorders, use mindfulness meditation. I > think they both also have a strong neurophysiological perspective on all this > which I think is very good news. Think undeveloped mirror neurons, which I > would guess sociopaths have, and what can be done to awaken and strengthen > them via mental techniques and everyday strategies.  > > > As for so called normal people and spiritual practices and results, I'm now > mentally comparing Eckhart Tolle, Byron Katie and Adyashanti, three seemingly > very different paths to a quite realized, IMO, state in each case. I'll also > add in Father Keating whom Rick has interviewed. Actually listening to some > of those interviews might shed some light on what, if any, influence there is > from the original motivation onto the results. > > From my own experience and reading about others and listening to others, I > think the whole thing is a crap shoot. I'm just reading Adya's Falling Into > Grace, which is of course, a much better way of saying that! > > > ________________________________ > From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius <anartaxius@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:32 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short history of the FFL Posting Limits, for > Seraphita > > > >  > --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > Xeno! You had me chuckling last night when I read this, thank you, and > > smiling this morning as I reply. And even Ravi has finally noticed how > > humorous you can be. See how much good a short, snappy reply can > > accomplish?! I'm just sayin...AND I really enjoy your longer replies too. > > > > PS Any change in your opinion about NPD not being curable? > > As the subject of NPD was brought up on FFL, I was just curious, just as when > I came across an article on sociopathy; so have been reading something about > them. The opinion that NPD is not curable is not mine, it is found in the > material I have read and copied to FFL. It is also the opinion in these > articles that sociopathy is not curable either; these things seem to be > baseline ways the brain and its programming interprets the world and the > sense of self. > > The question that interests me is can a discipline like meditation have a > significant impact on these people, and what would that impact be? It seems > to be an unconscious rule in spiritual circles, if you do so-and-so, there > will be some sort of uniform result. Maybe that is not true. Maybe only > certain people, or even just a subset of certain people (what sociopaths call > 'neuro-typical' people or empaths), respond in the predicted way to spiritual > techniques. > > As research on meditation techniques is in general not very good, finding > data on population subsets like this would seem to be out of the question at > this point in most cases. > > Mental problems aside, it would be interesting to find out if there is a > difference in result between people who learn meditation because they want to > feel better, and people who have strong desire for enlightenment, this latter > being the historical reason for doing meditation. This does not require a > scientific definition of enlightenment, since none exists in my acquaintance, > only that certain people want whatever the word enlightenment means to them. > > "Normal people get too bothered witnessing suffering to keep seeing it. > Narcissists don't care â" they are too focused on their own story, judging > the losers in a way that makes them feel good about themselves, etc. But > sociopaths can really see the suffering and keep going." >
