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> >
> > On 8/5/2013 7:21 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > Whoah!!!
> > >
> > > "What could non-meditators have to say that has worthwhile perspective?"
> > >
> > > This does imply Buck, that you feel non-meditators of every stripe
> > > have nothing to offer to the world. That means you think the vast
> > > majority of the world has nothing to offer.
> > >
> > > That kind of elitist mind set is one of the reasons I no longer do TM.
> > > Feste was a faculty member at MIU in the 1980's so I bet Feste was a
> > > sidha or governor.
> > >
> > > Either way, from my point of view, not doing TM is not a tragedy
> > > nor is it throwing it away.
No that is anti-science ignorance. Yep people should read the science. It is
wrong thinking to stop meditating. Even anti-social and should be corrected.
To have learned to mediate and not take the time to practice it is a life
tragedy however. And, like that old ad campaign, a mind is a terrible thing to
waste; a meditation is a terrible thing to waste in non-meditation.
-Buck
> > > The whole point to TM was supposed to be
> > > getting one to the state where one no longer needs to meditate.
> > >
>
> No, that's not what Guru Dev, Maharishi's teacher taught. Even the
> enlightened continue to meditate for good reasons. Jim DA here has even said
> that in his discoursing on FFL. But really you should spend more time with
> more meditation and more time reading Guru Dev's discourses. The Brahmananda
> Saraswati discourses are online and can be easily read during the day or late
> at nite by skipping the posts on FFL of the non-meditators here and reading
> the Guru Dev discourses instead. That is lifetime very well spent. -Buck
> http://lbshriver.wordpress.com/guru-dev-lectures/
>
>
> > > There are a lot of reasons to not meditate regularly and none of them
> > > are tragic. One of the things I enjoy about not doing TM is that I no
> > > longer experience fatigue in the late afternoon. All the years I did
> > > TM, I would get tired around 3 or 4 pm, especially if I could not for
> > > some reason do the afternoon meditation. Now I go till 9 pm without
> > > fatigue which is when I get sleepy. Then I sleep.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > *From:* Buck
> > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Monday, August 5, 2013 7:53 AM
> > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>, Michael Jackson
> > > <mjackson74@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So Buck do you consider everyone who ever learned the sidhis to
> > > still be a sidha or governor even if they don't do them and don't do TM?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dear MJ;
> > > Well, we are identified by the things we do. Yur a meditator or yur
> > > not in this case. Yur a 'practicing' sidha or yur not. Likewise a
> > > Governor. In our case here, Yur a practitioner or yur a quitter. Of
> > > course people will split hairs many more ways. It sounds like Feste is
> > > a non-meditator quitter as in once learned meditation and just does
> > > not do it. Like if I remember right you are a meditator, as in learned
> > > to meditate and you meditate now. It is the only reason I bother to
> > > read yur posts here. What could non-meditators have to say that has
> > > worthwhile perspective? That someone could learn meditation and throw
> > > it away is tragedy beyond reason. I'm a practical guy, no
> > > philosopher,I meditate and I use Patanjali all the time too, a sidha too.
> > > I got to git to morning meditation at the Dome right now.
> > > Jai Brahmananda Saraswati,
> > > -Buck
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Buck
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 8:23 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meditators
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ã
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > One of your many problems is that you ascribe to people things
> > > they have never said and positions they do not hold. I don't do TM,
> > > for a start, although I have done in the past.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Feste, you don't meditate? Om Jeez. Yur a non-meditator? I am
> > > going to have to re-set my FFL spam filter again. This is really
> > > disaffecting to find this out now. I thought you were one of us all
> > > along. Wait, you mean you're not a meditator but you're a sidha? Like,
> > > not just a meditator but a citizen or governor? But most of the
> > > meditating town are meditators (common denominator) and don't do the
> > > sidhis anymore (a factor). Like, people here be Meditators but not
> > > coming to the Dome program the movement offers. There's only about
> > > 300-plus coming to the Dome TM-sidhis program now with the failure and
> > > collapse of the Invincible America Meditation. So really you're a
> > > meditator too. Aren't you? What do you mean? Just wondering,
> > > > -Buck, the Conservative and Group Meditator Still in the Dome
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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