> > Yup, People like Feste are the crux of a problemm with the meditating > community for the TM movement here. The antagonized meditator. The > antagonized by all the TM controversies. The problem of how to facilitate > them and convert them back to being friendly to the cause, from negative to > positive meditator. From non- to practicing again. And, even willing to > come to a group meditation for the good it will do. It's a problem. > -Buck >
Yep Turqb critiques: Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does. Yep, seems characteristic now that the TM.org just goes on without saying or addressing who they are in character as a means to deal with the controversies problem around them that evidently dog them in the marketplace. Not a "We are this" stance or even "not that". Just going on. There was nothing like that as clean moral leadership at the recent TM Guru Purnima services as they just leave it to the large media to hash and define who they are as tainted character. Notice for instance that "David wants to Fly" is readily available as docu-critique on the internet www. The Boards of Trustees need to think about stepping up to the lack of transparency and moral characteristics of the leadership going forward or we'll always be tainted by a past. It's a problem. -Buck > --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > Whoah!!! > > > > "What could non-meditators have to say that has worthwhile perspective?" > > > > This does imply Buck, that you feel non-meditators of every stripe have > > nothing to offer to the world. That means you think the vast majority of > > the world has nothing to offer. > > > > That kind of elitist mind set is one of the reasons I no longer do TM. > > Feste was a faculty member at MIU in the 1980's so I bet Feste was a sidha > > or governor. > > > > Either way, from my point of view, not doing TM is not a tragedy nor is it > > throwing it away. The whole point to TM was supposed to be getting one to > > the state where one no longer needs to meditate. As it says somewhere in > > the Upanishads (I think) "To a man of awakened intellect, the Vedas are of > > as much use as a small pool of water in a place where there are pools of > > water on every side."Â > > > > Supposin' those of us who no longer meditate feel Pure Awareness all day > > long whether we are waking or sleeping? What's the point of closing the > > eyes to experience what you are experiencing with your eyes open? > > > > There are a lot of reasons to not meditate regularly and none of them are > > tragic. One of the things I enjoy about not doing TM is that I no longer > > experience fatigue in the late afternoon. All the years I did TM, I would > > get tired around 3 or 4 pm, especially if I could not for some reason do > > the afternoon meditation. Now I go till 9 pm without fatigue which is when > > I get sleepy. Then I sleep. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Buck <dhamiltony2k5@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 7:53 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > So Buck do you consider everyone who ever learned the sidhis to still be > > > a sidha or governor even if they don't do them and don't do TM? > > > > > > > > > > Dear MJ; > > Well, we are identified by the things we do. Yur a meditator or yur not in > > this case. Yur a 'practicing' sidha or yur not. Likewise a Governor. In > > our case here, Yur a practitioner or yur a quitter. Of course people will > > split hairs many more ways. It sounds like Feste is a non-meditator > > quitter as in once learned meditation and just does not do it. Like if I > > remember right you are a meditator, as in learned to meditate and you > > meditate now. It is the only reason I bother to read yur posts here. What > > could non-meditators have to say that has worthwhile perspective? That > > someone could learn meditation and throw it away is tragedy beyond reason. > > I'm a practical guy, no philosopher,I meditate and I use Patanjali all the > > time too, a sidha too. > > I got to git to morning meditation at the Dome right now. > > Jai Brahmananda Saraswati, > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Buck > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 8:23 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meditators > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > > > One of your many problems is that you ascribe to people things they > > > > have never said and positions they do not hold. I don't do TM, for a > > > > start, although I have done in the past. > > > > > > > > > > Dear Feste, you don't meditate? Om Jeez. Yur a non-meditator? I am > > > going to have to re-set my FFL spam filter again. This is really > > > disaffecting to find this out now. I thought you were one of us all > > > along. Wait, you mean you're not a meditator but you're a sidha? Like, > > > not just a meditator but a citizen or governor? But most of the > > > meditating town are meditators (common denominator) and don't do the > > > sidhis anymore (a factor). Like, people here be Meditators but not > > > coming to the Dome program the movement offers. There's only about > > > 300-plus coming to the Dome TM-sidhis program now with the failure and > > > collapse of the Invincible America Meditation. So really you're a > > > meditator too. Aren't you? What do you mean? Just wondering, > > > -Buck, the Conservative and Group Meditator Still in the Dome > > > > > >
