--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], iranitea <no_reply@> wrote: > (snip) > > It is interesting, that I incidentally found parts of this > > old correspondence in one of my mailboxes, because after the > > split with Judy, I had deleted all posts of her, she had > > sent to me privately. But incidentally - I found still my > > answers, quoting her in my Sent-folder. > > > > I won't disclose what she said, even though that might be quite > > surprising to some people. But I will quote what I said, and > > SHE WILL KNOW that it's true! > > Just freaking hilarious. There's nothing in what I wrote to > you that I'd mind anybody seeing, first of all; second, just > in case I'd kept the correspondence (I did), I hardly think > you'd be so stupid as to *misquote* what you had said. > > I have to wonder why Barry isn't calling you out as a > Drama Queen. "...and SHE WILL KNOW that it's true!" > > (guffaw) > > > This is proof, that I don't have any 'ax to grind' with Robin. > > That when I first encountered him, thinking, he is somehow > > 'crazy', I didn't know who he was nor had any sense of his > > history. I also told her, what exactly mean by a 'borderline > > personality'. This wasn't a problem, as long as this was just > > an email exchange with Judy. > > Right, as long as it was private. > > (snip) > > Please not, how I had defined, what I had meant with borderline > > personality, PRIOR to all online talk we had about this on FFL. > > How I described it as a very mild form, as I said 'pointing in > > the direction of psychosis'. And how I point out that they are > > actually amongst the most creative persons. And that wasn't > > meant sarcastically in any way, as it should be obvious. > > > > Up until this point, our email exchange was really friendly and > > polite. > > > > The problem, she had with me, was, 1) when I sided with you > > 2) went public with my opinion. > > The problem was 2, not 1. I've made my position clear on this > sort of thing. I made it crystal clear to you in private, and > I've spoken out about it publicly as well (as has Emily). The > trend on this forum toward speculatively slapping psychiatric > labels on people--especially in their presence--on this forum, > by nonprofessionals yet, is unconscionable and disgraceful. > It's also *ipso facto* hostile and insulting, whether it's NPD > or BPD or, as zarzari also speculated about Robin (and does > again below), "some schizophrenic disorder."
Judy, I get what you are saying. And I wasn't giving out my opinion right away. But you have to take into account, that we are not talking here about anybody. We are talking here about somebody who claims the highest state of enlightenment, access, more than anybody else, to the highest level of truth, acting like a teacher, here on this forum, being a cult leader in the past, who at least was highly manipulative, and showed the signs of this here online as well. So, you had only the choice to accept his special claim of insight to truth, or insight into what other people thought and felt, or challenge these insights and experiences as something else. He didn't leave you much of a choice, you either had to accept him as some sort of an authority, admire him, as you did, or you questioned the very source of all his claims. So at some point, rightly or wrongly, I felt that I had to make my own position clear, not being vague, and people knew, I was hiding my opinion, and called me out on that. That was right or wrong, but I did it. I am not the ultimate judge over him, and I am not the first. And please note, I didn't do it out of aggression or to hurt him. > I can't possibly feel friendly toward anyone who does that, > *to anybody*. Sure, that's obvious. But you are not looking at the whole picture either. There are cultural differences, and differences, of how we understand a certain label. At a certain point, I felt I needed to make a clear stand. If he is so enlightened (in whatever way), as you seemed to believe, I knew - I KNEW - he could digest it. He would have been above that. If not, it would have been better he stopped right here. And for myself, I just wanted to end the game. > > And then I experienced a very different Judy, than previously > > experienced. Soon I was called a LIAR, being obsessive myself, > > and being prejudiced against Robin. > > > > I might have been prejudiced against Robin after reading CULT, > > which was sort of hard to get through. But that was much later. > > You were obviously, documentably, prejudiced against Robin > long before that, zazari, based on what you've said in your > posts and in email to me. If you call, forming an opinion, based on what one has read, prejudiced, well then I was. Otherwise not.
