Share, save your fingers. You simply do not have the
mental capacity to understand a reasoned argument. And
I don't have the patience or the stamina to attempt to
clue you in.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
>
> Good Lord, Judy, can you really not see how you praise Robin yet not Rory for 
> what seems to me to be the same combo of strong and vulnerable?!
> Oh right, ONLY Robin is strong yet vulnerable. Rory, in contrast, according 
> to you, gets hurt by a few criticisms and, from another post, appears to be 
> invulnerable. IMHO you are the Queen of Double Standards!
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: authfriend <authfriend@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:23 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea <no_reply@> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea <no_reply@> wrote:
> (snip)
> > > > Judy, I get what you are saying. And I wasn't giving out my
> > > > opinion right away. But you have to take into account, that
> > > > we are not talking here about anybody. We are talking here
> > > > about somebody who claims the highest state of enlightenment,
> > > 
> > > Claimed it *as of 35 years ago*.
> > 
> > No, right here, he was still making appeals to have special
> > insight into, what he called people's first persons ontology.
> 
> But not on the basis of being enlightened. His whole *point*
> was that anyone could cultivate this kind of insight.
> 
> > You yourself believed him to be still in a sort of enlighetend
> > state (as you wrote to me in one of those mails.)
> 
> As I said, you are leaving out part of what I told you.
> 
> (snip)
> > > > So at some point, rightly or wrongly, I felt that I had to
> > > > make my own position clear, not being vague, and people knew,
> > > > I was hiding my opinion, and called me out on that. That was
> > > > right or wrong, but I did it. I am not the ultimate judge
> > > > over him, and I am not the first.
> > > > 
> > > > And please note, I didn't do it out of aggression or
> > > > to hurt him.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I don't believe you. I think you wanted to punish
> > > him for having the nerve, in your view, to claim to have
> > > been enlightened. 
> > 
> > See, Judy, that's really what makes you so weird, you believe
> > you know peoples motivations, and come up with the most absurd
> > theory. What makes you so sure about this rubbish you just said?
> 
> Your behavior generally on this forum, and the angry vibes
> behind your posts to and about him.
> 
> > > Same with Barry.
> > 
> > Now that's the point! That says more about you than you
> > think. A clear give away. thank you.
> 
> Uh-huh. That's real convincing, iranitea.
> 
> (snip)
> > > In any case, *you* didn't think he'd ever been enlightened,
> > > so you can't use what I thought as an excuse. 
> > 
> > No, you are wrong. I clearly considered the possibility.
> 
> And decided against it.
> 
> > > The guy had
> > > been through hell for 25-plus years, in seclusion, beating
> > > himself up for what he'd done, trying to get his head on
> > > straight, and finally being successful. 
> > 
> > According to his own dramatic testimony. Now, IF he has been
> > so cruel to himself, casting himself into this situation,
> > what am I to blame for? If he really went through all this,
> > really and honestly, how could my feeble opinion, me, a
> > nobody, have disturbed him?
> 
> I can't believe you have so little empathy.
> 
> Look at Rory, just now, who claims to be in *Brahman*
> consciousness, if not beyond. Apparently he was badly
> hurt by a few criticisms from the folks here.
> 
> Robin just gritted his teeth and carried on, but it
> seems pretty clear to me he was upset by all the crap
> he was getting from you and Barry and especially from
> Vaj. I suspect that's why he got the attributions
> mixed up in that post.
> 
> > If he could take Maharishis 'Madman' with a straight face,
> > and continue his act, rent a helicopter, how could such a
> > man be possibly lose balance by my thinking he is borderline?
> 
> At that time he was in a significantly altered state of
> consciousness and had been for some years. His experience
> was that he was simply a tool carrying out the cosmic
> plan, that his own will had no role to play and was
> essentially not functioning.
> 
> He doesn't have that experience any longer. It's what he
> spent 25 years working to get rid of, at enormous personal
> cost.
> 
> My sense of him is that he's an extremely vulnerable person,
> in the sense of being open to whatever comes at him, but
> also an immensely *strong* person, who is able to absorb
> very harsh blows without losing it. That doesn't mean the
> blows don't affect him; it just means he doesn't fall apart
> from the discomfort.
> 
> > (Which I had meant literally with a state, between the different states.)
> > 
> > > He deserved bouquets, not brickbats. 
> > 
> > If he was honest. But everything about him was over-dramatized.
> 
> That's your opinion; it says nothing about his basic honesty.
> What he'd gone through was dramatic from anybody's perspective,
> in any case.
> 
> > > He was nothing but courteous to
> > > you even in his response to your hostile challenge to his
> > > integrity.
> > 
> > Well, it was up to him. He could have been more successful,
> > if you weren't so outraged.
> 
> (snicker) That response was written well before I became
> so outraged. And you replied to it very positively,
> apparently deciding to hide your real feelings about him.
> He saw right through you, though, and told you so in that
> post (the one with the mistaken attributions).
> 
> > > > I knew - I KNEW - he could digest it. He would have been
> > > > above that. If not, it would have been better he stopped
> > > > right here.
> > > 
> > > What does "stopped right here" mean in this context?
> > 
> > In this case, confront his game, his one-up-manship he
> > played with people here.
> 
> He didn't play that game any more than many others here,
> yourself (and myself) included. (He did play it *better*
> than most of the rest of us, however.)
>


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