Hi Share - This sounds like this guy's fantasy - how can we choose other than what comes next? Also, if a person can always choose the cushy side, what's the downside to that? Is it a hidden test to look for masochistic tendencies? I would rather learn any lessons during a cushy life, than an awful one. Last, I haven't really found a life that didn't contain some hard lessons in it, for each and every one of us. For one thing, no one gets out of here alive.
--- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Seraphita, Michael Newton, writes books about the bardo, what happens between > lives, etc. He says that souls are able to choose whether to have a "learning > lessons" life or a cushy life. That actually before we come in, we are > offered a choice of 3 or 4 lives. And I like your idea of God as artist. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Seraphita <s3raphita@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:48 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years > > > >  > Re the Theosophists' view I reference below "All of us are reincarnated over > many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be rich, what > it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's like to be > scorned, and so on . . . including, naturally, each of us will have some of > our lives as women and other lives as men.": > > This view of reincarnation has always seemed nobler - more worthy of an > artist - to me: God is taking each of "us" on a universal tour to experience > all the highs and lows of life. If the Advaita-Vedantans are right and "we" > are actually the One Self pretending to be many different individuals then > that accords perfectly with this interpretation of reincarnation. > > The common view that if we're good, we earn a cushy life next time around is > pretty vulgar really. And the more "spiritualised" version that we're paying > our dues towards arhat status is really just the idea of meritocracy > projected onto the Cosmos. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Mike Dixon wrote: > > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember it( his > > explanation), we change from one sex to the other every three incarnations. > > The first incarnation of the opposite sex drags old tendencies from the > > previous birthàwith it. The second birth in that sex is more balanced, > > àwhile the third incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The > > super masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the next > > change, brings with it, impressions from the previous birth which was > > exaggerated. This would mean that all these experiences are natural for > > everybody to experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we > > treat one another going through theses phases of evolution determine our > > own fate. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of > > our other karmasàand hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be > > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That > > could be > untangling a > > mess that you'll never figure out. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Share Long sharelong60@ > > To: "[email protected]" [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years > > > > à> > > > Answer to your serious question: we shall see. As to your other comments; > > on a more mundane level, it's clear that we all have masculine and feminine > > aspects. For example, we all have estrogen and testosterone flowing around > > in our bodies. Given the ever expanding nature of the universe, it makes > > sense to me that a variety of expressions with regards to gender will be > > the rule rather than the exception. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Seraphita s3raphita@ > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:22 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years > > > > à> > That was the Theosophists' line. They said that all of us are reincarnated > > over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be > > rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's > > like to be scorned, and so on . . . àincluding, naturally, each of us > > will have some of our lives as women and other lives as men.à> > > > The thinking was that if you were a woman in a previous life and had just > > now incarnated as a man you could have homosexual tendencies this time > > around. Or if you were a woman and your next reincarnation was scheduled to > > be as a man you might have lesbian tendencies. (And various changes on that > > theme.) > > > > What's neat about the theory is that it recognises that homosexuality is > > "unnatural" (most people's initial gut reaction?) but it justifies the > > orientation as being "supernaturally" ordained. Nice one! (It's a mirror > > image of the usual liberal approach that any sexual orientation is natural > > and so acceptable.) > > > > Serious question: now that Bradley/Chelsea has requested the new identity > > does that mean that liberal outlets like CNN will call her "Chelsea" while > > conservative outlets like Fox will call him "Bradley" in their news > > coverage? > > > > --- In [email protected], "sharelong60" wrote:>> I think it > > was Mike Dixon who had what I think is a plausible explanation from Charlie > > Lutes: that a person is carrying non physical gender qualities over from a > > previous life time. > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > > authfriend@ wrote:> >> > --- In [email protected], "Seraphita" > > wrote:> > >> > > - In [email protected], "authfriend" wrote:>> > > > > Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche.> > > > > > > > This Manning "chap" becomes more embarrassing by the day.> > > From the > > Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read:> > > While restrictions on > > sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions> > > on gender identity > > remain in place due to Department of Defense> > > regulations; transgender > > Americans thus continue to be barred from> > > military service.> > >> > > > > Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line of work.> > > > Not any more. > > She's been dishonorably discharged.> > > > She said she joined the Army to > > try to overcome her sense> > that she was a woman. Now that the trial is > > over and she's> > out of the Army, she's decided to go for it.> > > > FWIW, > > research is increasingly showing that gender dysphoria> > has biological > > causes. It's beginning to look as though a> > man, say, doesn't want to be > > a woman because he's screwed> > up, but is screwed up because he wants to > > be a woman.> > > > It's hard to imagine what it must be like to feel you're > > in> > the wrong kind of body and to know that everybody thinks> > you're > > someone you know you aren't--and for this to be the> > case from the time > > you were a very little kid. That would> > mess with anyone's mind.> >> > > >
