Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote: > > > Enlightenment, connates, to me at least, an endpoint. > > Hmmm. Never got that., although unimpeded omniscience might seem that way.
Well it you may have a broader view than many. Why label some initial state with a high falutin term like "enlightenment". It never made sense to me. Maybe call it "first light" or "groggy, but eyes are open" or "ascended above sea level" or "less localized" (instead of "cosmic") or "release from prison to a half-way house with ankle braclet" instead of "liberation". > But even Rainbow body is a beginning since they have the ability to > divide into tens of thousands of different manifestations, all > capable of incarnating or affecting other dimensions--and not > necessarily within linear time. Yes. My point about the Rainbow Body was not that it is an endpoint, but that it is so far beyond the "no I" or other such "experiences" -- that its silly to think one has reached the pinnacle of human development when they have that experience. "First light", "groggy, but eyes are open" or "less localized" does not a Rainbow Body immediately make(eth). > One person I spoke to on retreat a number of years ago claimed that > M. did a lecture on the "absolute body" based on the cognitions of > Brighu rishi where he described these various bodies. I wish someone > would present a transcript--which used to circulate. I heard the Brighu lectures. At least some. If I am recalling correctly, this was part of the discussions of immortality. A main point was that a state could be reached where the body just keeps renewing itself, and keeps changing. Which appears at least plausible given the knoweldge modern genetics -- where there appear to be genes that at a certain age, turn off the body's cells ability to continually rejuvinate -- and thus one gets older and finally, as renewel gets too sluggish, dies. If the "normal" continuously renewing ability of cells could be maintained, the body could last much longer if not "forever". I posted an article on rats where this has been done -- to a degree. The key was changing , changing changing. And M. emphasized "if we don't mind this "changing , changing changing" forever happening happening". To me it implied some pretty different and unexpected forms could be "changed" into. M. mentioned Vyasa, for whom "there is no record of his dropping his body". He played aronnd the edges of terming Vyasa an immortal. And being still here on earth. Himalayas I think was alluded to. Soma was part of the story I think. Someone on an India course asked, perhaps after a similar lecture, why saints like Vyasa didn't visit? M. said something about such persons would not visit a groups so unclean. Not a dis on the group, but more an indication of the purity of the immortals. I assume Baba-ji, of Yoganada stories, is an immortal like Vyasa. As many possible residents of deep areas of himalayas and other places. And ties to christ's "resurrection of the body" theme. Some in India / Tibet say Jesus came there after the cross. Perhaps he became an imortal and this explains, to a degree, the experiences of his presence and the whole Big Thing in Christianity about resurrection. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
