---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
On 08/05/2014 09:47 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/04/2014 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: No it's YOU who doesn't get it. Certainly the sun is the center of our solar system not the galaxy. But horoscopes use other stars in the galaxy that are assumed (wrongly) to rotate around us too. They call them constellations. As I pointed out if you are an astronomer and want to locate a body in the sky then you are going to do that from your point on earth not the sun. This doesn't change the fact that astrology assumes the sun goes round the Earth. I don't think anyone wants to move their telescope to the sun. It gets a little hot there. Houses do show the effects of the house in astrology. Why, we don't know but there are theories. Constellations of course were named so that people could locate them in the sky by seeing the shape. The sky is divided into twelve "houses" to match the twelve lunar periods, or months. They aren't real in any objective way. Happy to help. Obviously they do not and can not have any effect on us, they are totally arbitrary and any claimed effect is anthropomorphism writ large. I convert for evidence. No, planets do not go backwards. Retrogrades are a visual effect. Not all astrologers use them and particularly they are often not used in jyotish at all. This is another thing that gives it away. Why are there so many different types and all apparent;y doing it in a different way? And most likely with their own adherents that claim theirs is the "best" way. If it were a true description of human affairs you would only need one, and it would be a lot more obvious than it appears to be, even to other astrologers. Astrology disproves itself by failing to take any of this into account. As I said above you're wrong again. It takes an iron age view of the cosmos, it's all moved on so much it's hilarious that anyone might still think that the position of some of the planets at the time of their birth (why then?) might be relevant to the rest of their lives or even their personality. We've much better explanations for how personalities develop. The stars are as distant from us as we are from them. So there aint nuthin wrong with my knowledge of astronomy Except you don't seem to actually know much about it. You would have recognized those famous astronomy names. Why? Sky mapping is a rather small part of astronomy. Maybe your predelictions have biased you towards this presumed importance? I'm much more interested in large scale cosmology anyway, the inadvertently minded anthropomorphism of prehistoric star gazers has little appeal, you can only read about it so many times without losing interest when there are so many major discoveries being made. You seem to be from the University of WillyTex. :-D Now that's fighting talk! but the beauty of that statement is that it's out of date as soon as I type it, because knowledge doesn't stand still, unless you still use a horoscope drawn up before they'd even discovered there were planets beyond Saturn. LOL. What kind of astrology charts did you draw up? Tropical? That would explain a lot. Tropical astrologers hang stuff off comets and asteroids that NASA can't even predict where they'll be. See above, if they can all be wrong by a matter of opinion, they are probably all wrong. Period. You can always tell a bad theory by how many variables you can change and still claim that it's working. In this case the claimed effects are almost certainly caused by something else otherwise it wouldn't be so vague and opinion dependent. Bottom line is that patterns exists. There really isn't any randomness in our world. That is an illusion. There you go living in the past again, quantum physics is pure randomness. But the large scale is generally highly predictable, sure. But we imagine patterns in the sky, you may think you draw parallels but blind testing gives that the lie. Patterns replicate themselves throughout nature. Also some research has shown that solar storms can effect the behavior of humans on earth. There is often social upheaval during these times. Myth and rumour. Just like the idea that the moon effects us. Sheer lunacy... I let you go so you can grab some of those fresh peanuts that have just been roasted. :-D Just kiddin' Seriously, I like peanuts and I'd be happy to be convinced about astrology. My mind is open, and besides, I'd really like that lottery win! Did you buy any tickets? You can't win unless you buy a ticket. :-D PS: you get a D for today. That must be D for destructively dynamic discourse.
