Michael, I'd say that TM helped him in his work. But he needed specific help in
his personal life. Obviously in that area of life, his damage was serious and
needed expert attention. I'm mystified as to why he didn't seek that.
Meanwhile, based on my own experience, I suggest: toss the bath water! Keep the
baby...
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:54 AM, "Michael Jackson
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
The thing is, both Collins and the TMO have hyped his practice of TM and
TMSP as that which keeps him on a even keel in the entertainment world - they
make big claims for his practice doing all kinds of stuff for him.
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Michael, certainly I have been exposed to the TMO more than most people.
I've been in FF for 26 years and lived on campus for the first 14 of those
years. I earned both an MA in SCI and an MS in psychology from MUM. During that
time I took relationship workshops because I realized that I needed specific
knowledge about successfully navigating that often complicated area of life.
In large part I left campus 12 years ago because I realized that I had "issues"
and that I needed to deal with them with expert help. Maybe I'm just more
practical than Stephen Collins! But in almost 40 years, I have only missed
between 5 and 10 meditations. And that was due to illness or traveling. And
includes the 7 years when I did not have contact with MUM or the TMO. I did my
TMSP at home.
We don't really know any details about Stephen's TMSP practice. Thus to draw
conclusions is not really useful.
I see the TMO as part of a world that is constantly evolving. And recently, I
see the TMO itself evolving.
Take the best and leave the rest!
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:45 AM, "Michael Jackson
mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Perhaps that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on
its own, not to others.
I agree that may be true for some, the problem is that the Old Fraud and his
organization, the Movement have always make outrageous unsupportable claims for
the efficacy and benefits of of TM for EVERYONE. This gives people who know
nothing about TM unreasonable expectations and sets them up for disappointment
on many levels.
If one reads and listens to the hype about TM and TMSP the existence of a
mental/emotional state that would lead one to be a child molester should not be
possible in someone who has done TMSP for decades. Yet it happens. If the TMO
billed TM for what it actually is, instead of what they claim for it, I would
never say a word.
It is the fraud, the lies and the misuse of people that makes the TMO a
fundamentally corrupt and disgusting organization.
And the meditation itself is mediocre - it is not the superlative better than
any other technique, superior to all others the Movement does and Marshy did
claim that it is.
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Good day lurking reporters, yes Stephen Collins, who has molested children,
has been a TM advocate. So too has Father Gabriel Mejia been a TM advocate. And
he has rescued hundreds of Columbian street children with TM central to his
efforts.
What reasonable conclusions can be drawn from these opposite stories? Perhaps
that TM is a technique that can be of great benefit to some, and, on its own,
not to others.
>From my own experience I'd say that TM is necessary for full psychological
>development. But in some cases, it is not sufficient. Nor is TM sufficient to
>heal a toothache. Or a broken finger. Or a floundering marriage.
Again, in my own experience, I'd say TM is perfect for preparing the ground for
healing. And I think of it as my only spiritual practice. What I do to deal
with my Attachment Disorder, those I think of as my healing modalities. They
are complementary to my TM practice. But they could never replace it.
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:04 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
And where are the TM apologists here on FFL on this revelation? Deadly
silent!
They have shifted into "shoot the messenger" mode. There is, after all,
*nothing* they can say to "apologize away" one of the TMO's superstars being
investigated for child molestation. So since they can't excuse it away, they'll
try to distract from it by attacking you and anyone else who brings it up.
Hadn't you noticed this trend? All of the lurking reporters have.
From: wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few
years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed
benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess!
Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest
teaching on the planet?)
'7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout
Reaches Hollywood
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View photo.Stephen Collins (Getty Images)Stephen
Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th
Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and
exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his
admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor."There is a formal
complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan
Special Victims Squad," the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
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