Fleetwood, I haven't watched an interview in a very long time but finally did so with Rick's interview with Panache Desai. Mainly because I haven't had any contact with Panache's work in about 2 years and I was curious.
I'm really glad I followed that curiosity! Very lively guy, very embodied and devoted to helping others live a householder way of life fully and richly. He even leads a little process after about an hour. He's big on coming back to the breath in challenging moments. So simple and practical! From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation I will do my best to watch his interview, though my track record for finishing these things is abysmal. Yes, it is "pretty bloody intense"; anything that heaven and hell can throw at you. Unbounded awareness is more than a catch phrase. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote : "I don't think of CC as enlightened...". Yes, kind of a grand experiment going on these days - The old descriptions of enlightenment, based on cognition, and perfection of the sidhis, by those living a monastic lifestyle, needs to be updated. As critical and necessary, as the vast knowledge encompassed by the Veda, and the science of Yoga, is, so too, is the necessity to merge such a delicate and powerful science, with everyday life, how most of us live. Unlike those great saints who dwelt in caves, investing silence, into silence, our investments in the world, as householders, are all about people, and relationships. CC is a great benchmark, but being surrounded by relationships with others, UC becomes a requirement, a means to make life easier, the unlocking and fulfillment of Maharishi's goal of world peace, begun at the level of the individual (CC), but finding its joy in perfect relationships, with everyone (UC).Thanks for bringing that up - I've been thinking off and on, about what enlightenment means, if we aren't focused on cognizing the Veda, and perfecting the sidhis, in a cave. I think it means having perfect relationships with ourselves, and those around us, sentient or not. Conversely, these days, expanding the consciousness to CC, means very little, if we cannot fulfill our role in the world around us.PS This is what I meant a few months ago, when I wrote, "UC sucks" - lol - a description of its influence on us, upward and outward, vs. a subjective description of the SOC - my little joke. Check out the new Batgap interview just posted with Sat Shree. The first part is about his experience, his physical as well as psychological experiences, of his "awakening". I thought the man was very genuine in lots of respects and the stages of his personal "enlightenment" which took 7 years and a very wise teacher to guide him, were pretty bloody intense. Have a listen if you have the time. 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