From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
Salyavin, You should study jyotish, particularly the Nadi Astrology system. NA can show you why certain things happen even though on the surface it looks brilliant. Specifically, a person may have a strong 9th house which gives good results relating to spirituality and the experiences of samadhi and the siddhis. But a strong 9th house is not necessarily beneficial to the 10th house affairs relating to career and work recognition. This is the reason why knowledge of the cuspal sublords can tell you the ancillary effects of a favorable 9th house. With this knowledge, one can make adjustments to his or her activities and take advantage of what nature has in store for the person. The Cuspal Sublords! I just found the name of my new metal band. I remember their big hit "I Can Predict What The Sun Is Going To Do Tomorrow Morning Because I'm So Fuckin' Smart." :-) ', But I love the way you write this stuff as though it all makes some sort of sense and can be used for divination purposes. I've really yet to see it here or anywhere. It only "makes sense" to those who have previously invested years or decades in believing this kinda crap. Once they have done this, they pretty much *have* to keep believing it, or admit that they wasted their life pursuing nonsense. And we all know THAT is never gonna happen. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : Salyavin, What kind of experiences have you had that is comparable to the enlightened beings? I've been there dude. I've talked about it before on here. TM blew my mind for a while, I saw the light, experienced the oneness that is also everything else at the same time but without changing it's own nature. Good trip, not a good long term proposition perhaps. I can see why religions get started over it though, it's easy to think that what is happening inside accurately reflects what's happening outside, and when you get a change of perception like that you might think you are seeing a deeper level of external reality but what we see of the world is created in our heads anyway so changes to that are changes in how our consciousness is created neurophysiologically. I don't think I'd make a very inspiring guru but people reacted differently to me when I was like it, bit of ultra blissed darshan for the guys at work. Maybe I would have got promoted quicker if it had hung around. But I went to live with the TMO because of experiences like this and they never came back. LOL! The rest is history... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : Barry, Humans are limited and conditioned beings. Enlightened beings who have understood Being have to show the rest of us in concrete words and deeds the experience of the unified field. Philosophy and its fancy words and ideas, for me, do not convey the real meaning. So, you would have to use discretion in concluding that the world's wisdom books are fiction. A person, who makes criticisms and conclusions without reasonable and logical basis, is a fool. But the bible and the gita are completely different books from different cultures and with different aims among the so-called wisdom of their gods. To cherry pick a few remarks as being some sort of Truth that all ancient religions share is stretching credulity a bit. They aint remotely similar. And as usual, the problem is really that the experiences the wise speak of are the same as the ones I have had but we differ in interpretation of what they mean. In the absence of any information beyond that which can be gained by their senses they created a worldview that I don't think matches up with reality. I've been there, tried it on for size and disagreed with their conclusions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : I really hate to be the person to have to explain this to you, JR, but the Bhagavad-Gita, the Old Testament, and the New Testament are all FICTION. You don't "win" philosophical discussions by invoking them, any more than if you had invoked the Harry Potter books. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, Yes, IMO consciousness is alive. The Bhagavad Gita has shown this when Arjuna asked Krishna to show his true self. And, Krishna showed a vision of infinite types of beings to disclose who He is. On the other hand, the Old Testament states that Yahweh is the "I AM Who AM". However, in the New Testament, Jesus is shown to be the embodiment of Consciousness in a human form. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : John, what you say brings up this question for me: is consciousness alive?Hmmm, or maybe better to ask: is Beingness alive? From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence Share, It all depends on what you believe is the basis of the universe. If you believe that consciousness is the basis of the universe, it is likely that you would say biological intelligence is the more common way of development. This is because we know this happens on earth where humans exist. Non-biological intelligence implies that this is created by another type ofbeings--more likely humans or biological entities. I can see how a non-biological intelligence could be an advantage. For example, robots can direct and maintain the functions of a spaceship for centuries, without eating and sleeping like humans, until the destination is reached. In the distant future, humans could develop these intelligent robots to take human sperms and eggs to a nearby or distant star in the Milky Way. When an earthlike planet is reached or found, the robots can artificially inseminate the eggs with sperms to grow human beings who will populate or repopulate the new world. But if there is a faster way to get to the other worlds, then the assumptions would be different. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote : John and salyavin, thanks, I enjoyed both these articles and thoroughly appreciate the concluding remarks:So, how do weprepare for something we know so little about? We do so "by continuingto do good science, but also by realizing that science is notmetaphysically neutral," concluded the conference host Steven Dick.He added: "We prepare by continuing to question our assumptions about the nature of life and intelligence." Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-11-alien-life.html#jCp From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : A SETI scientist states that this may be the most dominant intelligence in the cosmos. Somehow, it appears that scientists like him are missing something in their assessment about the capabilities of biological entities like human beings. It may be possible to communicate with ETs instantaneously with the human mind through mental telepathy I imagine there's a pretty good reason they don't consider things like that at scientific conferences. The fact that humans can't do telepathy is probably chief among them. This can be justified through the principle of quantum entanglement. Not quite as simple as that, but I'll bet anything it won't be used telepathically, communicating with entanglement would require very sophisticated equipment, you've got to separate and remove fundamental particles and move them about. It's a big job and I'm pretty sure that you need to have both particles in the same place to start with to know whether they are actually entangled or not. Trouble is, no one really knows what is happening during entanglement experiments. Can subatomic particles communicate faster than light - thus destroying our realist concept of space - or is there something we don't know about how they work? Perhaps the state of the particle pairs is determined before they are separated by some deeperprinciple we don't yet undertsand. If they can communicate faster than light than then how do we know from our perspective which event causes the other? Or is time an emergent phenomena that doesn't apply to the subatomic world? Etc etc. Very interesting subject though whatever it's practical uses end turn out to be. One thing is for sure if we could use it to communicate with aliens we can use it to communicate on Earth. 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