--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:42 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote: > >> > > [...] > > > >>> I *think* what you're describing is not turiya but an > >>> integrated state, what TM would call "witnessing," in > >>> meditation. But then your comment above that I wasn't > >>> describing turiya makes no sense. > >>> > >> > >> You seem to be confusing the fourth pranayama with turiya. The > >> > > fourth > > > >> pranayama is not taught in TM. > >> > >> > > > > True, but perhaps it can be interpreted that the "fourth pranayama" > > converges to what TMers call "transcendental consciousness" since the > > description of "Breath suspension" during TM's "pure consciousness" > > state seems to be identical to descriptions of the fourth pranayama. > > That experience is a helpful prerequisite for learning the fourth > pranayama. >
So what does it mean when people "witness" in the TM sense for years on end? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
