--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected],
> "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I never said I didn't have any expectations.
> > > 
> > > I may not know what enlightenment is like, but I
> know what it 
> > > ain't like?
> > > 
> > > Still an expectation...
> > 
> > Exactly.
> 
> Yes, exactly, just as I said from the start.
> 
> Very funny how folks believe they're cluing me in
> on something here.
> 
> > And the moment one has defined what is
> > right here, right now as "not enlightenment,"
> 
> Described as my experience, not "defined."
> 
> > one
> > has shut down to some extent the ability to
> realize
> > that what is right here, right now IS
> enlightenment.
> 
> Now I'm beginning to see the motivation behind all
> the
> intentional language.
> 
> If one can frame "the ability to realize" as
> something
> intentional rather than as something that happens to
> one, then one has a basis for taking personal credit
> for it, claiming authorship of it, being in control
> of it:
> 
> *I* did it, me, all by myself!

But there is no person to take credit for it in
enlightenment. Prior to this there is a sense of
ownership and responsibility for action and its
concequences. But in enlightenment it is an absurd
notion to talk about an individuality. None can be
located . 




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