--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > But it's our work to do as
> > > individuals--you can't  
> > > really outsource your own sadhana to India.
> > 
> > Very wise words.
> 
> I noticed that, too.  Nor, IMO, can you outsource 
> them to a guru or a spiritual tradition to do 
> "for you."  We got ourselves into this karmic
> mess ( or illusion of a mess, if you prefer ), and
> we have to get ourselves out ( or realize that there
> was never anything to get out of, again if you
> prefer :-).

The Shiva Sutras have a sloka(?) that specifically
states that you become realized only through your own
effort, nothing else.



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