--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > <snip> > > > > The Shiva Sutras have a sloka(?) that specifically > > > > states that you become realized only through your own > > > > effort, nothing else. > > > > > > Another one o' them pair-of-oxes: > > > > > > Before liberation or the full sunshine of the Self in Unity, or > > > pick your own description, we pray and exhort Gods, Godesses, and > > > the saints and Masters to deliver us from our suffering. > > > Afterwards, we are delighted we did it all by our Selves! > > > > As I was reading the first sentence, I thought you > > were going to finish by saying, "Afterwards, we are > > delighted to find that every one of them was just > > our Self all along!" > > > > > Again, looking back it seems absurd that such a duality of > > > deliverance from our ignorance by someone or someGod else would > be > > > preferred. After all, if we don't do it by ourselves, we can't > > > really know exactly what we have done, and by extension would > > > hypothetically remain in ignorance... > > > > Nah. We *do* know exactly what we have done: we have > > appealed to aspects of our very own Self. From the > > perspective of enlightenment--I would assume--there's > > no way we can do it *other* than by ourselves. > > > > Isn't there something in the gita about the Self unfolding the Self > or somesuch?
The self healing the self; There's a book I am reading now, called, "Ask and It Is Given" by Esther and Jerry Hicks. Has been helpful to me lately; In that recognizing thoughts which lead you to feelings of happiness; and also, recognizing thoughts which seem to lead you away from feeling of Joy. It is a way to practice, remembering that we have a perfect indicator inside, which we forget to use; Which immediately tells us in every situation, and with every thought; Whether we feel happy or moving toward our "Source Energy" or a feeling that we are moving away from source energy. If everything in the universe is based on vibration; Pain and emotional trauma, must be a "lower vibration" which we have attracted to us, or taken upon ourselves. By raising our vibration, back to our originally self, which know bliss and joy, our child self, our soul self, we release the lower energy from our energy field, and based on a higher vibratory energy, we begin to attract the fulfillment of the desires which bring happiness and joy. R.G. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Drugs Don't Discriminate. Get help for yourself or someone you know. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0I.OUB/ZbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
