--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > <snip> > > > The Shiva Sutras have a sloka(?) that specifically > > > states that you become realized only through your own > > > effort, nothing else. > > > > Another one o' them pair-of-oxes: > > > > Before liberation or the full sunshine of the Self in Unity, or > > pick your own description, we pray and exhort Gods, Godesses, and > > the saints and Masters to deliver us from our suffering. > > Afterwards, we are delighted we did it all by our Selves! > > As I was reading the first sentence, I thought you > were going to finish by saying, "Afterwards, we are > delighted to find that every one of them was just > our Self all along!"
Yep. Thanks, That is probably more accurate. > > > Again, looking back it seems absurd that such a duality of > > deliverance from our ignorance by someone or someGod else would be > > preferred. After all, if we don't do it by ourselves, we can't > > really know exactly what we have done, and by extension would > > hypothetically remain in ignorance... > > Nah. We *do* know exactly what we have done: we have > appealed to aspects of our very own Self. From the > perspective of enlightenment--I would assume--there's > no way we can do it *other* than by ourselves. > Yep. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Drugs Don't Discriminate. Get help for yourself or someone you know. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0I.OUB/ZbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
