> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
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"his enlightenment eludes him" 

A sign of great writing is you can read it over several times and find
great new gems.

Jim, I admire your enlightenment tradition, what ever it is, for such
unique view of enlightenment, distinct from any other enlightenemnt
tradition I have encountered.

In fours short words, its almost aphorismic, to both assign
posseionship of enlightenment to an individual "his enlightenment" and
the implication that it is an individual who is enlightened,
"enlightenment eludes him" is in such stark contrast to other
traditions, I have to stand up and cheer that you are revealing some
new yet uncovered, distinct description of the multi-cultural vast
diversity in the use of the term enlightenemnt.  It certainly supports
the thesis that many different cultures and traditions  experience
many different things that they paradoxically all call the same thing
"enlightenement".

While being  steeped in your enlightenment tradtion, you may, or may
not, be aware of how other traditions use the same term -- but with
clearly a vastly different experience attached. For example many
eastern traditions hold that possessionship of an enlightened status
makes no sense whatso ever. The phrase would never enter their lexicon
because (they claim) that is not the experience. In their world, there
is no possessor, no experiencer, just the commonality of all existence
that pervades ones awareness. 

And they go on to hold, that an individual never becomes enlightened.
Thus enlightenment "eluding an individual" again would be non-sensical
to these classical eastern traditions. It is the commonality of all
existence that awakens unto itself. It has nothng to do with the
individual. Some such traditions even hold that any sense of
individuality is an illusion. 

So keep up the good work in reporting these utterly unique
descriptions of the term enlightenemnt, from your enlightenment
tradition, and the correspondng implied experiences that are so
utterly different and unique compared to classical enlightenment
traditions. 

By the way, what is your enlightenment tradition?









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