--- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Nonsense. Even Jesus accepted money for his Church. 
Monks 
> and
> > > > > > priests have always been paid for their services since 
the 
> > > > beginning
> > > > > > of time. Ancient cultures considered these services 
> > paramount 
> > > and
> > > > > > the most practical thing they could do, and were quite 
> happy 
> > > to 
> > > > be
> > > > > > materialistic about it, and pay for it, just like you 
> would 
> > > for 
> > > > TV,
> > > > > > airplanes, buses, internet computer, etc. You just have 
> your
> > > > > > priorities skewed. Also, almost all ancient cultures had 
> some
> > > > > > concept of Karma, and believed that they were given what 
> > they 
> > > had
> > > > > > for a reason (wether they were given poverty or wealth), 
> And
> > > > > > Maharishi has said that it is the 'deserving ability' of 
> the 
> > > > people
> > > > > > that allows them to gain the necessary means, which is 
> what 
> > > > almost
> > > > > > all ancient cultures believed, including Guru Dev's 
> cultural
> > > > > > worldview.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there any record of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati 
> *charging* 
> > > for 
> > > > a  
> > > > > mantra? Or was it just on a donation basis? Or was it free?
> >>>
> > > > 
> > > > FREE !??? GET OVER IT  !
> > > > Only Maharishi and a few others have given techniques for 
> > > > free....and that NEVER lasts. NEVER. It is a fact of life.
> > > > If you wanted knoweldge from Guru Dev you had to DONATE your 
> > time 
> > > as 
> > > > a worker, and a lot of it, OR, pay for it (yagyas etc.), or 
> gain 
> > > > good karma by being a DONOR to the temple. By our standards 
it 
> > > would 
> > > > not be much, but by Indian standards in those days it was 
not 
> > > > insignificant.
> > > > 
> > > > OffWorld
> > > 
> > > I have teached a lot of students for free. With good following-
> up, 
> > > most of them continue. 
> > > Ingegerd>>>
> > 
> > Good.
> > Can people take the TM-Sidhis if a teacher is not recertified?
> > I must admit, when I took up TM I was doing it for the Sidhis, 
> > because I knew it would be powerful and I felt I wanted 
something 
> > more than a simple relaxation technique. It would be awful if I 
> > could not have taken the Sidhis.
> > (I for one, hate this whole recert thing)
> > 
> > OffWorld
> 
> If we suggest that TM is a very old technique coming from the 
Vedic 
> Culture, The Sidhis also comes from the same source. Why should 
the 
> TMO have a Mononpol to teach out the Sidhis? It does not make 
sense 
> to me. I would never teach out Maharishis Sidhi-techniques - 
because 
> they do not feel right to me. I have my own thoughts about the 
> Sidhis, and I think we all develop sidhi abilities during our 
daily 
> practise - regardless if it is TM or other practicies - if we are 
> serious about what we are doing.
> Ingegerd>>>

1.So do you tell them that they won't be able to take the TM-Sidhis 
when they learn. 
2.Do you tell them that the TM-Sidhis is the only advanced technique 
which has research published and also the only one where people have 
been seen to effortlessly hop in lotus and that even the US 
gymnastics team could not come close to what these pale-faced 
purusha were doing when thye tried to copy it (it was on a video -US 
gymnastics team were completely flabbergasted).

OffWorld






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