On Feb 4, 2006, at 8:08 PM, authfriend wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<snip>

That lecture you downloaded yesterday, the section on

enlightenment and assholes, touches nicely on this topic and how 

people (e.g. Adi Da, Chogyam Trungpa) use it to commit the most 

unethical acts. As Ken put's it rather nicely, while ethics are 

insufficient for enlightenment, you will not be able to sustain 

enlightenment without them.


But what is considered ethical varies widely and changes

constantly.  Where do you find an unchanging standard?


You don't--that's explained in the talk I was referring to.



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