--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > > Even a fundamental Christian may have had an Awakening 
> > > experience, and therefore believes that anything 
> > > connected with that religion is true.
> > 
> > You're deluding yourself...*most* Christians in
> > the world have had NO SUCH EXPERIENCE. They are 
> > merely trusting what they have been told to trust.
> 
> Most Christians, perhaps.  But Michael specified
> *fundamentalist* Christians, many if not most of
> whom have had some sort of "born-again" experience.

Thanks Judy, that's what I had meant indeed. It's just that such
experiences aren't counted as such by some people. They are so 'low'
that they don't even count them as such.
> 
> > > > If that ain't enough to dispel your oversimplifi-
> > > > cation, think about books that describe what 
> > > > happens after one dies. A *lot* of people believe
> > > > they're true, but they're not necessarily basing
> > > > that belief on their own personal experience.  :-)
> > > 
> > > They may or they may not. Many though do have experiences 
> > > which reinforce that belief, like you had an experience 
> > > of a past lifetime, or simply things said there match 
> > > with their own experience. Like you may have had 
> > > experiences which go beyond the purely physical realm,
> > > and therefore conclude that there is something more 
> > > that doesn't die with the body. The rest is some kind 
> > > of reasoning. So, as I said, its ALWAYS a mix. To 
> > > believe otherwise is simplification, black and white
> > > painting, as you did.
> > 
> > I think you've caught a case of "Judy disease," and
> > are just trying to avoid admitting that you made a
> > statement that wasn't well thought through.  :-)
> 
> Translation: Barry didn't understand the first
> statement, so he thought he had a devastating
> rebuttal to it.  But now that it's been explained
> to him, he realizes the statement made sense all
> along, and his rebuttal did not.

I think its a matter of having buttons pushed. I made the mistake of
opposing him.(btw doesn't 'buttons pushed' sound a bit too deterministic?)






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