--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:12 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > >> > >> > >>> I genuinely want to know which techniques out there are effortless > >>> and do not require concentration. > >>> > >> > >> You must've missed the "TM is not effortless" thread here sometime > >> ago. > >> > > > > I recall a really hilarious post from you that purported > > to show how the TM checking routine "proves" TM is not > > effortless. > > > > Oddly enough, you canceled that post not long after. > > Funny I don't recall that. Although once the point was made clearly, > there was little else to say--although some people love to keep > arguing beyond reason. > > > > > > >> TM is *easy* but not truly effortless. And there are many *easy* > >> meditation methods out there and there are *effortless* forms of > >> meditation but they are not necessarily *easy* to do correctly. > >> > >> It seems like we're mincing words when we talk about this, but > >> styles of meditation which are truly effortless are typically forms > >> of non-meditation. And there is a big difference. > >> > >> Even M. admitted this at Estes Park--that TM required some effort. > >> > > > > What *exactly* did he say? I've heard that what he said > > was "TM is effortless effort." > > PR as part of one the quantum mechanics spiels no doubt. > > > > > I would maintain that those who don't think TM is > > effortless *are not doing it effortlessly*. > > I would maintain they are not familiar with real effortless > meditation and simply enjoying their easy meditation method, that's all. >
Or perhaps you never learned TM. There are plenty of people who went through the TM course who never learned TM, apparently. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
