--- In [email protected], anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], anon_couscous_ff 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 3:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > MMY's simple test for someone in Brahman Chetana is: "can 
they 
> > float?"
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Since CC is associated with yoga/samkhya-darshana and 
> > Patanjali's  
> > > > yoga-sutra why would they not be able to float having 
achieved  
> > > > turiyatita ("CC")?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yes, at one point he was saying clear sidhis was the test of cc.
> > >
> > 
> > CC the "real thing"
> 
> um, he said cc as I recall. I assumed he meant the real cc and not 
the
> fake cc. But you will have to make your own call on that. :)
>


MMY has said for years that some people have CC that is "quite 
mature." That still doesn't mean nirvakalpa necessisarily, and the 
fact that there are still EEG coherence fluctuations during TM found 
even in the people who report 24/7 for years at a time seems to 
support my distinction...





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