--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2006, at 7:48 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 7:41 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 3:49 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > MMY's simple test for someone in Brahman Chetana is: "can
> > they
> > > > float?"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Since CC is associated with yoga/samkhya-darshana and
> > Patanjali's
> > > > > yoga-sutra why would they not be able to float having
achieved
> > > > > turiyatita ("CC")?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, at one point he was saying clear sidhis was the test of
cc.
> > >
> > > I thought so. Sparaig has repeatedly claimed this, only to be
told
> > > differently by close students of M.--but then he keeps on
> > repeating
> > > it! What's up with that?
> > >
> > > It would be a major contradiction in terms of the three main TM
> > > darshanas if it was as he claimed.
> > >
> >
> > Er, not really. Just as there is transcendence and "Transcendence"
> > during meditation, and finally, nirva-kalpa samadhi; there can be
> > different implications for using the same general terms. What did
MMY
> > mean by '"clear" sidhis' and "CC" in this context?
>
>
> Honestly, I could care less. However I would assume by clear
siddhis
> he meant perfect performance of the siddhi and by CC, "turiyatita".
>
Perfect performance of the technique, I could see. Spontaneous
ability to perform the sidhis in a "normal" waking state outside of
TM+sutra practice merely by intending for it to happen is another
matter, IMHO.
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