--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:01 AM, anon_astute_ff wrote: > > > The "talking" school generally attracts those who have a minimal > > capability for (or capable > > impulse toward) renunciation, Yogic (or Spiritual) discipline, and > > deep meditation, but who > > otherwise are habituated to constantly talk, listen, and think. The > > "discipline" and the > > "Realization" in the "talking" school (especially in its modern > > form) are generally minimal, > > weak, superficial, temporary, and merely mental (or intellectual) , > > and the "talking" school > > is (and has been) rightly criticized because of this. > > Bingo!
There simply is no 'talking school'. It's an invention of whomever. Shravana means listening. Manana means thinking. Listening and thinking go hand in hand. Even Shankara himself stated that there cannot be a practise to 'achieve' enlightenment, only the Self can realize itself. For example, one chapter in Shankaras Upadesha Sahasra is entitled: 'How to enlighten a disciple' and it consists purely of dialog between teacher and disciple,interms of realizing the Atman as unconditional reality. No talk of tantric practises or any practise at all! But one thing is true: For Shankara not everyone was eligable to receive this knowledge: Only Brahmins who had studied the Vedas and who where Brahmacharins could do so. But for breaking that rule you have to credit already Ramana, Nisargadatta and Vivekananda. It is also true, that the controvery about Advaita exists already as long as there is Advaita. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
