--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:52 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:18 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Actually the techniques mentioned in the article have a > > > > > long and continuous history of producing fully enlightened > > > > > Buddhas. > > > > > > > > Yeah, but they're not TM, so how good > > > > can they possibly be? Get a grip, man. > > > > > > Gives me another bumper-sticker idea: > > > > > > "I'd Rather Be Unstressing" > > > > > > > So where is the mention of witnessing sleep in all of this? Wallace > > (the Samatha researcher) doesn't mention it that I saw. > > No he doesn't, although the techniques of witnessing are commonly > applied nightly by practitioners of this tradition. He does teach how > to do it. > <snip>
Hi Vaj- There seems to be a disconnect between what you are more or less continuously proposing through your postings here, that TM and other McMeditation techniques are basically not adhering to a pure [Buddhist] tradition, and therefore causing problems among the practitioners, and/or disallowing them from reaching deeper levels of experience. Aside from blatantly stating that TM produces undesirable side effects in a majority of those that practice it, which I haven't heard you say, it appears that your aims of meditation may be different than for some of those that practice TM. In my case, TM was always 'sold' as a practice to enhance daily life, and not as a practice in which the focus was the practice itself. The reason I mention this is when I read many of your postings about the experience of stillness and no thought, etc. I find it interesting, but from a practical point of view, or as a goal of achievement, it doesn't interest me at all. I am not that interested in my meditation experience. I do it, then I forget about it until it is time to meditate again. Analysis of my meditation experience is not part of my practice. Has my experience deepened over time? Yes. Has silence infused my daily activity? Yes. Have I gained the ability to sit without thoughts for as long as I choose to? Yes. Do I experience lucid dreaming? Yes. Do I have good posture? Yes. So it appears that you are regularly propounding a set of techniques that when practiced, achieve the same results as regular practice of TM, and TM Sidhis. The conclusion I reach is that whether we take a bus, or a scooter or an ox cart, Buddhist meditation techniques, TM, the destination with all of its associated results, remains the same. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
