--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good point. Of course none of this matters to people who do the > > > > > practice and like it. The larger question of what this brain > > > > > activity "means" is pretty wide opened from what I understand. > > > > > TM has taken a position of advocacy here. Other scientists may > > > > > be more cautious. > > > > > > > > I think a point that many of the TBs miss is that > > > > they've been *told* that "coherence" in the brain > > > > actually means something, and means "something good > > > > is happening." > > > > > > > > The problem with "TM science" is that the researchers > > > > set out to find something that proves TM or the siddhis > > > > are good. They *start* with an assumption, and then > > > > they try to find something -- anything -- that supports > > > > that assumption. So they hook a few people up and they > > > > find some things they call "coherence." And because > > > > they *are* looking for soemthing -- anything -- they > > > > declare "coherence" to be important. They *have* to > > > > find *something*, otherwise they won't get any strokes > > > > from Maharishi. And the whole *point* of performing > > > > the research is to get strokes from Maharishi. > > > > > > Two points. > > > > > > First, "coherence" has been a TM buzzword since before > > > there *were* any studies of EEG coherence. > > > > > > Second, the purported importance of brain-wave coherence > > > is hardly an idea peculiar to TM, as you'll find if you > > > Google the term while excluding "TM," "Transcendental > > > Meditation," and "Maharishi." It's quite well defined > > > and not difficult to recognize. There are companies > > > making money selling devices and systems that are said > > > to generate brain-wave coherence and institutes that do > > > research on its benefits. There have been articles in > > > the press about how playing video games increases brain- > > > wave coherence. As Lawson has pointed out, enhancing > > > brain-wave coherence is said to be a potent remedy for > > > ADD. > > > > > > You'll find brain-wave coherence touted as beneficial > > > on both spiritual and scientific sites which are > > > entirely unrelated to TM. > > > > > > In other words, your assumptions above, and hence your > > > conclusions, are entirely *factually* erroneous. > > > > > > But don't let that stop you from promoting them. Unlike > > > the TMO, *you* get to say whatever damn fool things you > > > want with zero accountability. > > > > > > > And the Scientific American article I mentioned a week or two ago > specifically says that > > brain wave coherence is something that seperates the brains of > higher-order critters like > > primates and mammals from lower order ones. > > haha. And yet the top article on google scholar search for BWC was > about BWC in monkeys. >
Did you bother with the pubmed search? IEEE.org has a lot of references. Do a google search (not scholar) with the string eeg coherence site:IEEE.org > >The higher on the evolutionary scale, at > > least in the human perspective (where we're the highest), the more > often EEG coherence > > shows up. The explanation is that it apparently shows that larger > brain structures are > > involved in problem solving. > > Like Global Climate Change, Social Security and the Middle East. > Monekys don't have (or create) such problems. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/