--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good point.  Of course none of this matters to people who do the
> > > > > practice and like it.  The larger question of what this brain 
> > > > > activity "means" is pretty wide opened from what I understand.  
> > > > > TM has taken a position of advocacy here.  Other scientists may 
> > > > > be more cautious. 
> > > > 
> > > > I think a point that many of the TBs miss is that
> > > > they've been *told* that "coherence" in the brain
> > > > actually means something, and means "something good
> > > > is happening." 
> > > > 
> > > > The problem with "TM science" is that the researchers
> > > > set out to find something that proves TM or the siddhis
> > > > are good. They *start* with an assumption, and then
> > > > they try to find something -- anything -- that supports
> > > > that assumption. So they hook a few people up and they
> > > > find some things they call "coherence." And because
> > > > they *are* looking for soemthing -- anything -- they
> > > > declare "coherence" to be important. They *have* to
> > > > find *something*, otherwise they won't get any strokes
> > > > from Maharishi. And the whole *point* of performing
> > > > the research is to get strokes from Maharishi.
> > > 
> > > Two points.
> > > 
> > > First, "coherence" has been a TM buzzword since before
> > > there *were* any studies of EEG coherence.
> > > 
> > > Second, the purported importance of brain-wave coherence
> > > is hardly an idea peculiar to TM, as you'll find if you
> > > Google the term while excluding "TM," "Transcendental
> > > Meditation," and "Maharishi."  It's quite well defined
> > > and not difficult to recognize.  There are companies
> > > making money selling devices and systems that are said
> > > to generate brain-wave coherence and institutes that do
> > > research on its benefits.  There have been articles in
> > > the press about how playing video games increases brain-
> > > wave coherence.  As Lawson has pointed out, enhancing
> > > brain-wave coherence is said to be a potent remedy for
> > > ADD.
> > > 
> > > You'll find brain-wave coherence touted as beneficial
> > > on both spiritual and scientific sites which are
> > > entirely unrelated to TM.
> > > 
> > > In other words, your assumptions above, and hence your
> > > conclusions, are entirely *factually* erroneous.
> > > 
> > > But don't let that stop you from promoting them.  Unlike
> > > the TMO, *you* get to say whatever damn fool things you
> > > want with zero accountability.
> > >
> > 
> > And the Scientific American article I mentioned a week or two ago
> specifically says that 
> > brain wave coherence is something that seperates the brains of
> higher-order critters like 
> > primates and mammals from lower order ones. 
> 
> haha. And yet the top article on google scholar search for BWC was
> about BWC in monkeys.
> 

Did you bother with the pubmed search?

IEEE.org has a lot of references. Do a google search (not scholar) with the 
string 

eeg coherence site:IEEE.org


> >The higher on the evolutionary scale, at 
> > least in the human perspective (where we're the highest), the more
> often EEG coherence 
> > shows up. The explanation is that it apparently shows that larger
> brain structures are 
> > involved in problem solving.
> 
> Like Global Climate Change, Social Security and the Middle East. 
> Monekys don't have (or create) such problems.
>






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