--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > A gal I knew from another spiritual trip had an inter-
> > esting theory about this stuff. She felt that although 
> > there is a lot of variety among the spiritual seekers 
> > one finds in this world, basically you can pretty
> > safely "sort" them into two categories.
> > 
> > The first category is composed of the seekers who are 
> > content with reading about other people's adventures.
> > They get off on scriptures and tales of other people's
> > enlightenment, and on intellectual discussions of other
> > people's experiences, and that's enough for them.
> > 
> > The second category is composed of mystics, those who
> > will settle for nothing less than having their *own*
> > experiences. Reading about them isn't enough; talking
> > about them isn't enough; coming up with entertaining
> > (but essentially worthless) models to "explain" the
> > experiences isn't enough. They want the Real Thing,
> > and if the spiritual group or teacher they're assoc-
> > iated with isn't providing it, they move on to some-
> > thing that does.
> > 
> > I've always tended to agree with her assessment. In
> > general, the people in the first group say "Maharishi
> > says" (or "<Fill-in-name-of-teacher-or-historical-saint
> > here> says") a lot. Because they're not actually *having*
> > very many spiritual experiences, they assume that no one
> > else is either, and therefore they become dependent on
> > intellectual analysis of Other People's Experiences, 
> > especially those of their teacher, whom they *imagine*
> > is having all *sorts* of good experiences.
> Barry, there is no way you/we can know whether "...they're not
> actually having very many spiritual experiences..." Who knows who
> "they" even are, how they would define spirituality, what they were
> really looking for, how their interpretations of their own growth in
> life have changed, etc.

No, Kenny, you don't understand.  Barry knows

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