--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley"
> > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Personally, I have no need or desire for a guru or other 
> > > savior figure. But, there certainly is a very long tradition 
> > > of devotion to a guru, and it just struck me that being 
> > > devoted to MMY or Punditji is no different than MMY being 
> > > devoted to Guru Dev.
> > 
> > I would suggest that there is a difference. You 
> > probably would never have seen the other disciples
> > of Guru Dev obsessing about former fellow disciples
> > who had moved on, and spending hours badrapping them.
> > That's a Western addition to "guru yoga," and IMO
> > it's not an improvement.
> 
> I dunno, Barry. Considering the crap Guru Dev's devotees 
> were willing to sling at a fellow devotee (MMY poisoning 
> GD & stealing amulet, etc.), I could see them perfectly 
> capable of slinging crap at ex-devotees. 

Good point. I guess human nature is human nature
after all.

> It could be, though, that there is less guru hopping in
> India than in the western world.

That is probably true, but I would wonder which came
first -- the demonization of those who move on as
somehow weak or having failed or having somehow 
breached etiquette by preferring another teacher
(or preferring no teacher at all), or the tendency
to stick around with the same guru for a lifetime. 
I would suspect it's the former, teachers cultivating
an environment in which it is considered bad form
to move on. Over the years, and centuries, students
tend not to move on.







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