--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 15, 2006, at 2:09 PM, new.morning wrote: > > >> > >> http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/cgi/content/abstract/46/4/347 > >> This study attempted to follow up this finding and > >> hypothesized that a group of neurotically disturbed patients > >> would have a higher S value and a group of individuals who > >> practiced a calming technique such as transcendental meditation > >> (TM) would have a lower S value than normal subjects. The second > >> hypothesis was confirmed, but not the first, in that the > >> neurotically disturbed patients had the lowest mean values for S > >> of the three groups, rather than the highest. > > > > TM makes one more neurotically disturbed? > > > > Well this list may be living proof. :) > > Sad but interesting.
Interesting, but not, of course, the least bit sad. Too bad, Vaj. The results did not show that "TM makes one more neurotically disturbed." Rather, it showed that depressed patients have a different response to CO2 than was hypothesized on the basis of previous studies. (Note that the TMers' response was in accord with the hypothesis.) And especially not sad if you bother to read the rest of the abstract: "Particular characteristics of the sample of psychiatric patients cast doubt, however, on the validity of this finding. Three additional findings of this study were that anxious, depressive, and hyperventilating subject groups were no different from one another in terms of S values; that very experienced TM practitioners (sidhas) could significantly lower their ventilatory response to CO2 in the meditating state as compared to the nonmeditating alert state; and that the S value did not increase in two male subjects with endogenous depression after successful treatment with electroconvulsive therapy." > I wonder, if by comparison "2nd generation TM techniques", like > the Sudarshan Kriya + Advanced TM technique meditation would have > different results or not. Hands, please: How many think Vaj was genuinely confused about the results of the study and really believed it meant TM makes one more neurotically disturbed? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/