--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > <snip>
> > > And yet another comment from Dana:
> > > 
> > >  > I also find the great strengths that exist in other 
> > organizations.  
> > > But
> > >  >this thing, of our experiencing "live mantrah", something that  
> > > exists on
> > >  >its own, deep within self, that something which moves self 
> into  
> > > Self, is
> > >  >that thing which makes TM so very precious.
> > > 
> > > This is not a unique quality of TM. It exists in all formal, 
> > Tantric
> > > Hindu and Buddhist traditions. There is no aspect of TM practice 
> > that is
> > > not common in these traditions (as I mentioned before, the only 
> > change
> > > I've seen is in how drifting from the mantra is interpreted. In 
> > TM, it's
> > > attributed to unstressing; in the mainline traditions it's 
> > attributed to
> > > lack of success. In both cases the instruction is the same -
> >  "return to
> > > the mantra once you realize you're off of it."
> > 
> > Huge, huge difference here. With the ignorant instruction, 
> > attributing being off the mantra to 'lack of success' drives the 
> > mind to concentrate, and thereby remain on the surface of the mind, 
> > encouraging the validity of the small self.
> 
> Ding.
> 
> > With the correct or enlightened instruction, we know that for the 
> > mind to drift off the mantra is natural and not to be concerned 
> > about it.
> > 
> > No wonder the traditionalists in India and other Eastern areas have 
> > supposed low regard for this type of meditation-- it hasn't been 
> > taught correctly for generations! 
> > 
> > Geez, it doesn't take a rocket scientist! What is Dana smoking 
> > anyway?!
> 
> It isn't a matter of intelligence, it's something
> else, something psychological, maybe.  It's like
> looking all over for your glasses when they're right
> on your nose.  Inability to think outside the box?
>

Of course, the other danger arises constantly as well "I have more bliss 
experiences with x 
meditation than TM, therefore its better than TM."

Bliss, as defined by MMy, is neither blissful NOR an experience in the usual 
sense. I know a 
lot of TMers that make this mistake too. It's scary.







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