--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > And yet another comment from Dana: > > > > > > > > > I also find the great strengths that exist in other > > > organizations. > > > > But > > > > >this thing, of our experiencing "live mantrah", something that > > > > exists on > > > > >its own, deep within self, that something which moves self > > into > > > > Self, is > > > > >that thing which makes TM so very precious. > > > > > > > > This is not a unique quality of TM. It exists in all formal, > > > Tantric > > > > Hindu and Buddhist traditions. There is no aspect of TM practice > > > that is > > > > not common in these traditions (as I mentioned before, the only > > > change > > > > I've seen is in how drifting from the mantra is interpreted. In > > > TM, it's > > > > attributed to unstressing; in the mainline traditions it's > > > attributed to > > > > lack of success. In both cases the instruction is the same - > > > "return to > > > > the mantra once you realize you're off of it." > > > > > > Huge, huge difference here. With the ignorant instruction, > > > attributing being off the mantra to 'lack of success' drives the > > > mind to concentrate, and thereby remain on the surface of the mind, > > > encouraging the validity of the small self. > > > > Ding. > > > > > With the correct or enlightened instruction, we know that for the > > > mind to drift off the mantra is natural and not to be concerned > > > about it. > > > > > > No wonder the traditionalists in India and other Eastern areas have > > > supposed low regard for this type of meditation-- it hasn't been > > > taught correctly for generations! > > > > > > Geez, it doesn't take a rocket scientist! What is Dana smoking > > > anyway?! > > > > It isn't a matter of intelligence, it's something > > else, something psychological, maybe. It's like > > looking all over for your glasses when they're right > > on your nose. Inability to think outside the box? > > > > Of course, the other danger arises constantly as well "I have more bliss experiences with x > meditation than TM, therefore its better than TM." > > Bliss, as defined by MMy, is neither blissful NOR an experience in the usual sense. I know a > lot of TMers that make this mistake too. It's scary. > First established in Being, non-blissful Bliss is the golden radiant vortex we enter to discover the Gods in their personal form; Vishnu for example.
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