--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sinhlnx" <sinhlnx@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've > concluded > > > > that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't be so > > > > misguided on the contrasts between TM and other techniques. Please > > > > set the record straight: were you or were you not intiated into TM > > > > "as taught by MMY".? > > > > > > Vaj claims he was a *TM teacher*, amazingly enough. > > > > > > > As long as you follow the teaching guidelines, you don't need > > to "get" TM in order to teach it. THAT is MMY's contribution > > to the world. Gurudev obviously "got" TM and imparted the > > essential nature to many/all of his disciples, but MMY is the > > one who mechanized the teaching for the masses. > > Well said. > > I think that what is meant here (and often on this > forum) by "getting TM" is that the person who uses > that phrase is upset that the person they're > saying doesn't "get" TM doesn't buy into the dogma > about it 1) being The Best, or 2) The Only. *That* > is what threatens them in the critic (because they > *do* buy into this dogma), so to somehow "protect" > the cherished notion that TM is The Best, they try > to portray the critic as having never understood > "what TM is really about." > > It's a fairly sad ploy, no matter who uses it. Of > course someone can understand everything about the > way that TM has been described and presentd by > Maharishi and, at the same time, not buy it, not > believe that the description is accurate. But some > people would like you to believe that this isn't > true. > > TM is what it is. In my opinion it is a very valuable, > easily-learned technique of basic meditation. But > "The Best?" Give me a break? The very fact that its > promoters claim this should give one pause. NO tech- > nique or tradition is The Best; human beings are > different, and respond to different approaches to > self discovery differently, that's all. What may > be suitable for one person, or even many, may NOT > be suitable for others. The fact that the others > who have moved on from TM prefer a technique that > works better for them does not imply that they never > "got" TM. That's just something that people who are > threatened say to make themselves feel better for > having settled for the first technique they ever > tried. >
There's some validity in what y ou say, but I *DO* know people who never "got" TM or the TM-Sidhis, even though they dilligently did their program in the Domes, took all sorts of classes, etc. How do I know this? They prioritized Yogic Flying before TM or any other part of their Sidhis practice. If they only had 10 minutes, they'd hop around for 5 minutes and rest for 5, rather than do TM for 10. Eventually, they joined the Hare Krishna movement because it was "more authentic" or something. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/