--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 22, 2006, at 9:03 AM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > We can even leave "only" out of the picture here in
> > terms of what's at issue and stipulate that it's
> > possible there *is* some other technique that is
> > as effortless as TM.  But if so, it isn't the
> > techniques Dana is talking about.
> 
> 
> Kind of a moot point since we've long ago debunked the idea that TM  
> is effortless and actually have the words of Mahesh on this where he  
> indicates it does take effort.
> 
> There are a number of reasons for TM requiring effort, most  
> significant is that it uses "patched placement", that is when you  
> fail to transcend continuously, you have to patch that failure (or  
> "break") by returning to the mantra. Of course it is helpful to know  
> experientially what effortless meditation is, it is meditation  
> without any object whatsoever. If you need an object to find some  
> inward stroke, there's effort involved, period. It's a natural  
> consequence of all dualistic meditation methods, ones that require  
> you to close eyes and turn towards an object in order to merge with  
> that object and transcend something.
>


Waves hand, bah. 

Or, moreto the point, why is TM the only technique that shows reduction in 
activity of the 
thalamus?





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