Re: Blue states buzz over secession --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/24/06 1:10:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Curiously, there is a school of thought -- led by none other than > Ben Stein of "Win Ben Stein's money" fame -- that the attempt at > secession by the South in the 1860s was entirely legit. I believe > that the jist of it is that the residual power in the constitution -- > that's the power that says that anything not explicitly given to > the federal government goes to the states -- would go to the states > because there is no mention of who has power over secession in the > constitution. So... > > > > Yes, See the Declaration of Independence.
And in addition to that, the argument goes, the Treaty with Britian after Rev War explicitly was with 13 "free independent sovereign" entities / nations. Soveriegnty was maintained in Articles of Confederation. When the 13 nations seceeded from the Confederation of States, they did not explicitly give up their sovereign natures. Thus they have the right to seceed. Jefferson wrote about such a right into the early 1800's -- as did many others. And of course, regardless of constitutionality, secession could happen if the "mother nation" simply does not object. In the years preceeding the civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists, advocated "let them go peacefully". Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies / soverign states' agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union was irrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in the Consitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- or even basic logic. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
