In a message dated 7/24/06 9:23:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And of course, regardless of constitutionality, secession could happen
if the "mother nation" simply does not object. In the years preceeding
the civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists,
advocated "let them go peacefully".

Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies / soverign states'
agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union was
irrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in the
Consitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- or
even basic logic.

While I can't give the exact quote or source of quote supposedly Lincoln at one time said those states in the South can have their confederacy as long as they continue to pay the federal tariff, which he had just doubled. The war was over economics, not some grand idea that the Union was inseparable or the slaves needed to be free. Secession by mutual agreement would also be a horse of a different color as well. I've been saying since the 2000 election that eventually the Blue states would  make an effort to secede because our political differences are too great.
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