--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/24/06 9:23:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > And of course, regardless of constitutionality, secession could happen > if the "mother nation" simply does not object. In the years preceeding > the civil war, many, including Horace Greely, and many abolitionists, > advocated "let them go peacefully". > > Its Lincoln's argument that the ex-colonies / soverign states' > agreement to adopt the Constitution and enter the union was > irrevokable and eternal that does not find any basis in the > Consitution, or the ethos and mindset of free men and entities -- or > even basic logic. > > > > > While I can't give the exact quote or source of quote supposedly Lincoln at > one time said those states in the South can have their confederacy as long as > they continue to pay the federal tariff, which he had just doubled. The war > was over economics, not some grand idea that the Union was inseparable or the > slaves needed to be free. Secession by mutual agreement would also be a > horse of a different color as well. I've been saying since the 2000 election that > eventually the Blue states would make an effort to secede because our > political differences are too great. >
Coming from Quebec -- and being directly in the midst of at least one battle for secession -- I can assure you that the differences between blue and red states are miniscule compared to those between the French of Quebec and the rest of Canada (including the English and ethnics of Quebec who don't consider themselves as part of Quebec). The biggest impression that has ever been made upon me was in June of 1990 when I attended the St-Jean-Baptiste parade on Quebec's national holiday. This was about a week after an important constitutional amendment that was supposed to bring Quebec into Canada's constitutional family had been rejected by several provinces in Canada (it needed unanimous consent). The parade turned into both a protest against this as well as a show of nationalism. Well, talk about "cutting it with a knife". The nationalism and hatred against Canada was so palpable that it was something you could actually feel. Hundreds of thousands marched in Montreal...and it was the first time in my life that I experienced first-hand the power of that horrible thing called "nationalism" or "jingoism" or whatever it is: collective consciousness for what, to me, was an evil purpose. And it just bowled me over. I know it's not proper or acceptable to make the inevitable "Nazi" comparison but I will anyway: I had an inkling of what Nuremberg was like when all those Nazis marched (and we saw it in Reifenshtall's "Triumph of the Will"). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
